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  Reply # 2108629 16-Oct-2018 08:52
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wellygary:

 

The Japanese version of a farming ute is the Suzuki Super carry, head to any rural faming village and they are everywhere

 

super carry

 

 

Sorry but as someone who grew up on a farm, that is a rather poor substitute for a Hilux.

 

Might work fine in an orchard or other flat property (provided it doesn't get too boggy) but won't cope with anything moderately off-road or serious load carrying or tow a decent trailer

 

I've nothing against mini-utes.  We had little Suzuki ute on our farm.   But .... even in our application of gentle hills and relatively dry , pumicey soils  ... 4WD and large wheels were essential.





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  Reply # 2108633 16-Oct-2018 09:15
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MikeAqua:

 

wellygary:

 

The Japanese version of a farming ute is the Suzuki Super carry, head to any rural faming village and they are everywhere

 

super carry

 

 

Sorry but as someone who grew up on a farm, that is a rather poor substitute for a Hilux.

 

Might work fine in an orchard or other flat property (provided it doesn't get too boggy) but won't cope with anything moderately off-road or serious load carrying or tow a decent trailer

 

 

I never said it was a substitute, The comment was made in reference to the OP saying he had never seen any utes in Japan....

 

"farms" in Japan fit your description of a flat property perfectly....

 

 


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  Reply # 2108646 16-Oct-2018 09:40
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wellygary:

 

"farms" in Japan fit your description of a flat property perfectly....

 

 

From what I have seen, what qualifies as a farm in Japan would be considered a lifestyle block in NZ.

 

 





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  Reply # 2108650 16-Oct-2018 09:43
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MikeAqua:

wellygary:

 

The Japanese version of a farming ute is the Suzuki Super carry, head to any rural faming village and they are everywhere

 

super carry

 

 

Sorry but as someone who grew up on a farm, that is a rather poor substitute for a Hilux.

 

Might work fine in an orchard or other flat property (provided it doesn't get too boggy) but won't cope with anything moderately off-road or serious load carrying or tow a decent trailer

 

I've nothing against mini-utes.  We had little Suzuki ute on our farm.   But .... even in our application of gentle hills and relatively dry , pumicey soils  ... 4WD and large wheels were essential.

 

 

Probably because Japanese farms usually have roads and don't need to go off-road nearly as much like in NZ.

 

 

Different kind of farms, hence the need for this thing. You drive a big ol' ute over there and they'll think you're American.

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  Reply # 2108652 16-Oct-2018 09:47
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SpartanVXL:

 

Probably because Japanese farms usually have roads and don't need to go off-road nearly as much like in NZ. Different kind of farms, hence the need for this thing. You drive a big ol' ute over there and they'll think you're American.

 

I'd still rather have a Jimny ute.

 

We had the predecessor to the Jimny a Suzuki SJ ute.

 

Swapped in a Datsun 1.6L, up-sized up the wheels extended the tray and fitted a full body set of roll bars.  That thing would go anywhere - provided you didn't have to sidle.





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  Reply # 2108753 16-Oct-2018 11:45
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mdf:

You can even get a sister (?) version in electric, but not here. There an interesting description/discussion in this Trademe post and the Q+A about import restrictions on what would otherwise be an awesome runabout for building supplies and trips to the tip:


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/suzuki/auction-1760263095.htm?rsqid=e3131efcbca84ac29488982be9a66d32


Interestingly, their website refers to export sales to Australia.



No, definitely don't allow those things to be imported. Reason - they are a forward control type vehicle. And they have a terrible crash safety rating. Not so much of a problem driving around a farm at 20Km/Hr. But deadly in a head on crash on the open road in NZ.

Here is an example crash test video on how unsafe this type of vehicle is.



Even the government of Brazil forced the closure of the factory that used to make Kombi vans. As they said that they were unsafe. Yet the above Mitsubishi van was still available brand new in NZ after the Kombi factory closure. It's pretty bad when even 3rd world countries have tougher commercial vehicle crash safety regulations than NZ. And the people who mostly drive such vehicles in NZ tend to be employees. As the boss doesn't care if his workers end up in a wheelchair. And Worksafe doesn't appear to show any interest at all in vehicle safety. Despite at least 10 people getting killed on the roads per workplace death.





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  Reply # 2109111 16-Oct-2018 20:38
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Having started a new job at a vehicle dealership, I am now 10,000% pro-vehicle subsidies. 


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  Reply # 2110106 17-Oct-2018 22:26
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mdf:

 

You can even get a sister (?) version in electric, but not here. There an interesting description/discussion in this Trademe post and the Q+A about import restrictions on what would otherwise be an awesome runabout for building supplies and trips to the tip:

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/suzuki/auction-1760263095.htm?rsqid=e3131efcbca84ac29488982be9a66d32

 

Interestingly, their website refers to export sales to Australia.

 



The more I read those LHD rules, the sillier they seem.





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  Reply # 2110212 18-Oct-2018 08:41
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Linuxluver:

 

mdf:

 

You can even get a sister (?) version in electric, but not here. There an interesting description/discussion in this Trademe post and the Q+A about import restrictions on what would otherwise be an awesome runabout for building supplies and trips to the tip:

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/suzuki/auction-1760263095.htm?rsqid=e3131efcbca84ac29488982be9a66d32

 

Interestingly, their website refers to export sales to Australia.

 



The more I read those LHD rules, the sillier they seem.

 

 

They are designed to cater for car enthusiasts.  They make little sense beyond that. 

 

Notwithstanding the possible C02 benefits, I'm not sure I would like to see a whole lot more LHD vehicles on the road - IMO there shouldn't be any. 





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