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  # 2183909 19-Feb-2019 19:49
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Bicycles are roughly 1 per 10,000. Tenfold more ACC reported accidents are scooters.

 

Factors would be

 

1. Many new riders learning the scooter. Most cyclists are already up to speed, so not scooters fault

 

2. No helmets   Council's/NZTA fault due to no regulations

 

3. More risk of skin/elbow/knee injury at higher speeds. Humans fault for knowing the risk and ignoring it

 

 

 

 

 

 

The other thing is that pedestrians also are getting injured from riders of scooters. There was an elderly woman on RNZ who had a small kid ride into her ankle causing damage to tendons. With the elderly, these types of injuries take a lot longer to heal and can be more problematic. IMO cycles are easier to control and steer and I would prefer to see more e bikes , rather than scooters. But I guess scooters are cheaper.

 

The other thing that councils need to do is stop them being able to be left in the middle of the pavements. I have seen several, with several laying on their side, completely blocking pavements, and it just looks bad. This prevents people on mobility carts passing. Councils usually use fines as a way to fix this sort of thing, and I guess that can be passed onto the last user if they didn't park it properly.

 

 

I agree. Bicycles can do that as well, but scooters can be faster and are harder to ride. I dont really get the Councils attitude. In this day of PC attitudes. While I'm not suggesting cotton wool, it faster than a cycle, so at worst, its the same status as a cycle. Helmet wise and footpath wise, aka sensible


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  # 2184034 19-Feb-2019 23:59
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Half a million dollars worth of ACC claims from approx two million rides.

 

We should be charging at least 25 cents a ride as an ACC surcharge.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2184038 20-Feb-2019 00:38
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

I agree. Bicycles can do that as well, but scooters can be faster and are harder to ride. I dont really get the Councils attitude. In this day of PC attitudes. While I'm not suggesting cotton wool, it faster than a cycle, so at worst, its the same status as a cycle. Helmet wise and footpath wise, aka sensible

 

 

 

 

It is just plain old common sense. It seems they need consultants and inquires etc to tell them what we already all know. It seems that many people in the councils do know what is needed, but it is such a process to get anything done at speed. I do worry that someone will end up being killed. $500,000 of ACC claims in such a short period of time, which is 50 cents per ride is just madness. Maybe each ride should have a $1 surcharge to cover ACC claims and admin costs. 


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Half a million dollars worth of ACC claims from approx two million rides.


We should be charging at least 25 cents a ride as an ACC surcharge.


 



I think that would be a very sensible idea - motorcycles already pay a horrendous amount of money in registration to cover their part of the ACC bill, why shouldn't other high users be made to pick up their tab?

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  # 2184474 20-Feb-2019 18:06
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I was walking down the street and picked up one that had fallen over and  blocking the footpath. i was surprised that the tyres were completely worn and bald, and looked like they had been like that for a while. Are the tyres meant to be replaced by juicers when nearly worn? they also probably need better stands as I can't see the stands being able to withstand the wellington winds.


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  # 2184509 20-Feb-2019 19:31
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They do have maintenance staff in each city but who knows what their policy is for that situation. Typically a juicer has to report one as being damaged


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  # 2184522 20-Feb-2019 19:55
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They do have maintenance staff in each city but who knows what their policy is for that situation. Typically a juicer has to report one as being damaged

 

 

The state I have seen some of them here in chch looks like maint is low priority. I agree the stands are small and hold up jack.





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  # 2184570 21-Feb-2019 00:01
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loceff13:

 

They do have maintenance staff in each city but who knows what their policy is for that situation. Typically a juicer has to report one as being damaged

 

 

 

 

I had a look at other ones on my walk around the town this evening, and the tyres on all looked pretty worn. I understand that some riders like to do skids, which probably wears them out fast. I do hope that they do bring in some safety standards that they must meet, as they are a form of public transport IMO. I do wonder how they are going to perform in the wet Wellington weather with slippery pavements etc


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  # 2184599 21-Feb-2019 08:18
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When I was in Christchurch in early January I was shocked at the state of many of the tyres.

 

Apparently they have the Internet now in Christchurch so people had discovered how to do burnouts on them and that was clearly a pretty popular pastime for many people. In both Auckland and Wellington I've seen and used scooters with wear, but nothing like the random selection of maybe 50 scooters that I saw and passed in Christchurch.

 

 


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  # 2184722 21-Feb-2019 10:57
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sbiddle:

When I was in Christchurch in early January I was shocked at the state of many of the tyres.


Apparently they have the Internet now in Christchurch so people had discovered how to do burnouts on them and that was clearly a pretty popular pastime for many people. In both Auckland and Wellington I've seen and used scooters with wear, but nothing like the random selection of maybe 50 scooters that I saw and passed in Christchurch.


 



Are Lime scooters rear wheel drive?




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  # 2184723 21-Feb-2019 10:57
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mattwnz:

 

I do wonder how they are going to perform in the wet Wellington weather with slippery pavements etc

 

 

My guess is  - not well. 





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  # 2184815 21-Feb-2019 13:41
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Batman: Are Lime scooters rear wheel drive?

 

Nope, the motor's in the front hub - just like most e-scooters.

 

(The only one I know of with a motor in the rear hub is the Zero 10 X, and that has 2 x 800w motors, ie in both hubs!)

 

The times I've ridden Lime scooters the brakes have been so sh!te I'm amazed they'll do anything exciting in the braking department.


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  # 2184896 21-Feb-2019 15:19
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Nope, the motor's in the front hub - just like most e-scooters.

 

(The only one I know of with a motor in the rear hub is the Zero 10 X, and that has 2 x 800w motors, ie in both hubs!)

 

The Zero 8, 9 and 10 all have rear wheel drive too.





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  # 2184930 21-Feb-2019 16:19
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JaseNZ:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/110752068/lime-has-oneday-deadline-to-explain-safety-glitch-to-auckland-council

 

 

 

They need to get this issue sorted out, be it mech or software.

 

 

 

 

I wonder if they will follow suit in the Hutt. Problem is that it is councils that are in contol, rather than central government, so no universal standards. At least they are onto it.


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