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Topic # 242869 18-Nov-2018 08:07
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Hi all, need a bit of help picking up between two cars.

First one is toyota wish 2009. Immaculate condition. Japanese import with no nz registration and done up 100k. Comes with a reversing camera(japnese system) and sports wheels. Price about 12k

Second one is toyota wish 2008. Same Jap import. Very tidy but a notch less than above with some v minor discoloring of plastic bits and yellow/oxidized headlights. Comes with radio for NZ frequency and has done up about 50k. This one costs 11k

Which one would you go for and why?

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  Reply # 2128727 18-Nov-2018 08:35
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First thing, do not believe for a second the odo readings are correct. Make your own judgement based on wear and tear etc. second thing I will throw in, is if the engine has a cam belt budget another $800 - $1000 for that replacement. I would get both fully pre-purchased inspected by an independent person of your choosing.

I would be looking at the newer one but would need to research the safety ratings and features, likely to be better than the previous model. If it has traction control, more airbags, and such like it’s a no brainer.




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  Reply # 2128729 18-Nov-2018 08:44
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either one should be okay. check general wear and tear, drive both and see which you like. Both will be CVT transmission not the old style automatic. Toyota CVT are good transissions unlike some others. CVT is different driving experience to older automatics but good once you get used too it. More efficient than older autos. Both will have Chain driven engines so no cambelt to replace.  Headlight discolouration will occur on both. Easy to remove with elbow grease. Plenty of videos on youtube for removing it. So either car fine.





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  Reply # 2128730 18-Nov-2018 08:45
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Both of them are chain driven. 2009 model is AA verified. Does that have same rigour as pre-purchase verfication?

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  Reply # 2128733 18-Nov-2018 08:51
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amazan18: Both of them are chain driven. 2009 model is AA verified. Does that have same rigour as pre-purchase verfication?


Nope. That usually means someone has checked the available paperwork for any evidence the distance reading has been fiddled with. It is no guarantee and has nothing to do with vehicle condition. Arguably not worth the paper it’s printed on.

Good about the chain drive engine, and CVT is ok provided they are serviced. I would be checking out the difference in safety features between the 2 models.




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  Reply # 2128747 18-Nov-2018 09:48
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assuming the 50k reading is correct go for the 50k car.





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  Reply # 2128899 18-Nov-2018 14:06
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amazan18: Both of them are chain driven. 2009 model is AA verified. Does that have same rigour as pre-purchase verfication?


Nope. That usually means someone has checked the available paperwork for any evidence the distance reading has been fiddled with. It is no guarantee and has nothing to do with vehicle condition. Arguably not worth the paper it’s printed on.

Good about the chain drive engine, and CVT is ok provided they are serviced. I would be checking out the difference in safety features between the 2 models.

 

The Wish have a normal auto trans.  We got a 2005 model with 65000Km on the clock from Toyota in Tauranga about 4 years ago with a Signature warranty . Was a good vehicle.  Only issue we have was the crappy Japanese tires that came with it.  Toyota replaced them fee of charge. 





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  Reply # 2128970 18-Nov-2018 17:57
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not sure on years but early ones the 1800 wish had normal auto transmission and the 2000cc ones had CVT. Then later ones both went to CVT  somewhere between 2006 and 2008. Would have to check. 





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  Reply # 2140086 5-Dec-2018 20:21
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So i deposited on a car today and guess what it is a honda stream rsz 2008, not quite the Toyota wish i was originally planning. Lol. What impressed me was better build quality and lower mileage and overall condition of car. It drives quite smoothly too but there is a minor nagging thing i am hoping to get answer here. The steering at motorway speed seems a bit stiff. At city speed it is very smooth and turns really great. My toyota Corolla 2009 remains smooth at all speeds so was wondering but salesman assures me that stiffness is more of a better feedback from the steering. I collect the car on Saturday so want to nut this out of my mind. Reading on internet seems like a safety feature to reduce the input at high speeds. Does anyone has any thoughts or experience on this?

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  Reply # 2140092 5-Dec-2018 20:34
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does the car go straight with no hands on steering wheel at city speed, highway speed, gentle braking, hard braking? (disclaimer: if you crash finding out it is not my fault)

 

if yes to all unlikely to have any issue





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  Reply # 2140094 5-Dec-2018 20:35
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also any vibration





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  Reply # 2140200 5-Dec-2018 23:24
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No vibrations and it keeps straight all the time! It just seems like that power steering is switched off (or less powerful?) at high speed and then comes back alive at slow speed.. looks like a feature in Audi and Tesla but surely can't be in honda!!

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  Reply # 2140209 5-Dec-2018 23:50
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Speed sensitive power steering has been available for years.
My 1998 Nissan SSS had it, 1999 Holden Astra had it, and both my Hyundai have it.


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  Reply # 2140303 6-Dec-2018 07:34
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djtOtago:

 

Speed sensitive power steering has been available for years.
My 1998 Nissan SSS had it, 1999 Holden Astra had it, and both my Hyundai have it.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Honda started with it back in the 80's.


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  Reply # 2140528 6-Dec-2018 13:42
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amazan18: No vibrations and it keeps straight all the time! It just seems like that power steering is switched off (or less powerful?) at high speed and then comes back alive at slow speed.. looks like a feature in Audi and Tesla but surely can't be in honda!!

 

 

 

This will be speed-sensitive power steering, which helps to prevent jerky and potentially lethal steering at higher speeds...you need it easier to steer at lower speeds, but at higher speeds, you want to have a lot more "feel", to make the high speed manoeuvers more controlled.

 

 

 

It's a Honda staple in newer cars, particularly higher-spec Japanese imports.   





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  Reply # 2141977 9-Dec-2018 12:23
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The speed sensitive steering might also be a power saving feature. As power steering is a parasite load on the engine. Disabling or reducing its effectiveness at higher speed means better fuel economy.

I have driven cars with failed power steering systems. Virtually no difference when driving on the motorway. But supermarket car parks are a pain.





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