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Topic # 24698 31-Jul-2008 11:32
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have u seen the story about the bar in auckland that has to be shut for one week because of drinking in the car park?:

i wonder why the liquor licensing authority did this.

is there is liquor ban in this bar's carpark? if there is then the customers breaching the liquor ban should be fined.

fights in the carpark. well bar owners/workers cannot prevent people from fighting in the carpark. they can get a security guard to break up fights once they happen but the security guard would have to wait until at least one punch or kick was thrown. and should businesses have to provide security in their car parks because of people breaking the law because this will cost the business money. i wonder if the car park is a public car park that the bar does not own and if it is then the council/police are responsible for the fights, not the bar owner.

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Reply # 152980 31-Jul-2008 12:22
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Probably the liquor license doesn't cover the sale of alcohol at the car park area?!

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  Reply # 152989 31-Jul-2008 12:49
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It's all to do with the license the bar has.  They will have an on-license, which means they're allowed to sell booze that has to be consumed on the premises.  As part of the license, the bar is responsible for making sure their customers don't take any alcohol out of the bar.  The car-park is obviously not part of the bar, so they're in breach of their license.

If you've been to a sports event that sells alcohol at the stadium they typically have bouncers making sure people leaving the event aren't carrying any alcohol - same reason.

Selling alcohol is a huge cash-cow, but can really cause large social problems, so licenses have strict conditions to try to mitigate the problems it causes.  An example in my area was the local resident's association tried to curtail the local bar's license because they claimed drinkers were vandalising property after leaving the bar drunk.  They weren't successful because they didn't have good-enough evidence.  But the ruling made it clear that if the bar was serving people when they were already drunk and it could be proved that people leaving the bar were causing problems, the the license would be restricted.

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