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RobDickinson
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  #2887070 16-Mar-2022 11:43
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Our average age of vehicle is 15 years


 
 
 
 

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  #2887087 16-Mar-2022 12:11
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and now the price of Brents crude oil is back under a $100 a barrel , pretty much much what it was before the war . I bet the litre price doesn't drop as fast as it went up.





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  #2887089 16-Mar-2022 12:11
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RobDickinson:

 

Our average age of vehicle is 15 years

 

 

And it was around that time that manufacturers began to make things like traction / stability control, engine management systems, etc standard features as opposed to high-spec options, as well as a shift towards more automatic vehicles - not to mention going away from analogue clocks to display distance. Long past are the days of removing the speedo drive from the outer sleeve. Most vehicles now will throw quite the wobbly if you disconnect the speed sensor from the output of the transmission, especially if they are an auto.

 

There are other ways to stop the odo counting but going into them would probably breach the FUG. Suffice to say they are generally beyond the skill of most non-technically minded people and certainly would not be applied by "most diesel drivers" as you claim.




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  #2887091 16-Mar-2022 12:17
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RobDickinson:

I thought most people with diesels disable the odo anyhow 



Pretty difficult to do.





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  #2887105 16-Mar-2022 12:34
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Geektastic:
RobDickinson:

 

I thought most people with diesels disable the odo anyhow 

 



Pretty difficult to do.

 

 

 

My old man worked for a company that used to check & certify the odometer readings of imported cars, fixed the speedo's on cars where after market tyres had messes with the accuracy, and updated odo readings on replaced instrument clusters. There are apparently multiple memory modules that hold the reading throughout the car, and it's fairly simple if you know how, to tell when they have been tampered with and it was loads of them. This was ~15-20 years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2887115 16-Mar-2022 12:43
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RobDickinson:

 

I thought most people with diesels disable the odo anyhow 

 

 

There are multiple modules that record distance, and if they suspect you have reflashed the one that does the display, or have a "correction" box between it and the dashboard then its not hard for them to audit the other ones, which should all read pretty close to each other for the distance travelled. 

 

If you have an 80's 4x4 with just a speedo and no other electronics then yeah, a bypass switch used to be common, but on anything since 2000s or so, not gonna happen.





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  #2887169 16-Mar-2022 14:26
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Apparently it's only really in the past 8 years that models have become too tricky to do, alot in the 2000-2010 bracket ended up with a flip switch to stop it counting or turn it back on. Not sure anyone's fudging the memory modules but rather that stopping it from picking up all together. Still quite common in Northland atleast





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  #2887184 16-Mar-2022 15:16
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I'm pretty sure the Devonport and other mainland Auckland commuter ferries are already subsidized as part of AT. Waiheke Island is not.

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  #2887261 16-Mar-2022 16:17
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Because the fuel excise and RUCs have been collected to pay for those.

 

 

Probably worth pointing out that:

 

- public transport pays fuel excise and RUCs too (at least busses do, I'll grant you trains not so much)

 

- land transport is also funded from general revenue and not solely from the NLTF which FED and RUC go towards

 

- land transport is also funded from local councils and other sources

 

People often think driving is entirely "user pays" (and then get the goat up about public transport, pedestrians, and cyclists) when the reality is far from it.


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  #2887274 16-Mar-2022 16:34
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Z Energy:

 

Z to provide Sharetank bonus litres following excise tax reduction

 

15/03/2022 - General News

 

 

Following the Government’s announcement of a 25 cents per litre reduction in the fuel excise tax (targeted at petrol) for a period of three months, Z Energy will provide bonus litres to customers who pre-purchased petrol using Sharetank on Z App within a specified period.

 

Z recognises that New Zealanders have been concerned about rising petrol prices following the invasion of Ukraine and are committed to playing our part in ensuring that we do not see an increase in our profit because of the policy changes to excise tax.

 

As a goodwill gesture, customers who have pre-purchased and not redeemed petrol (91 and 95 unleaded grades) through Sharetank between 00:01am on Tuesday, 1 March and 11:59pm on Monday, 14 March 2022 will be topped-up with bonus litres that reflect the 25 cents excluding GST per litre reduction in the fuel excise tax.

 

The bonus litres top-ups will be applied by 5pm Friday 18 March. Customers will get a push notification confirming the litres have been applied.

 

Please note that the bonus litres top-up will not be made against Z Electric Sharetank litres and other bonus offers, nor will it be processed for diesel purchases given there is no excise on diesel.

 

Z expects that the volatility in our key input cost being the price of refined fuels will continue given the ongoing war in Ukraine. While customers will now see a change in the petrol price at the pump reflecting the removal of excise duty, it is important to note that Z’s fuel pricing is localised therefore while this reduction takes place, the price of fuel across the country will continue to vary and may change in the future.

 

 





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Zeon:

 

 

Z Energy:

 

Z to provide Sharetank bonus litres following excise tax reduction

 

SNIP......

 

 

 

I guess they had to do that. Otherwise they risk losing customers to competitors for the next 3 months.


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  #2887327 16-Mar-2022 18:02
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Senecio:

I guess they had to do that. Otherwise they risk losing customers to competitors for the next 3 months.


Still the only viable 95 option around here so would just leave it in the share tank and pay for fuel without the bonus. May still do that.




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  #2887350 16-Mar-2022 19:11
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Dingbatt:

 

blackjack17:

 

How is this any different from toll free highways and motorways.  We have an expressway from  Auckland to Hamilton that has cost 10s of billions of dollars that is "free" to use.

 



 

Because the fuel excise and RUCs have been collected to pay for those.

 

 

 

 

Successive governments have chosen to fund transport from general taxation, effectively topping it up.

 

2020’s NZ Upgrade Programme funded more than $5b of roads from taxes. The Government here creates a problem quite the opposite to the one King was trying to solve: where general taxpayers subsidise roads used by motorists who haven’t paid for them.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300287265/fuel-taxes-need-to-go--but-weve-got-to-find-better-ways-to-pay 





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  #2887410 16-Mar-2022 21:50
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RUCs paid like they are for diesel cars and a system of NPR cameras on all the roads.

That way we can do away with all the ridiculous confetti in the windscreen.





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