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  # 2359515 22-Nov-2019 21:23
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Looks like its been pulled straight from the set of a 1970 low budget sci fi movie. Truly hideous


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  # 2359518 22-Nov-2019 21:35
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I was waiting to see what the truck was going to be since I put down the $1000 deposit on a model 3 which I dont really want now, would have seen about moving it to a deposit on a truck since that would be useful to me.

 

Instead I am now browsing 2000-2004 era utes on trademe and will get one of them rather than a $800 beater like I was planning on getting to see me thru to the truck. Perhaps will see what the ford one ends up looking like since they seem to understand that market.





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  # 2359522 22-Nov-2019 21:45
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mikebails:

 

Geektastic:

 

Possibly the ugliest vehicle since always. Yours for 'only' NZ$120,000 + GST....

 

 

Starting price is the same as the Model 3 SR+, so should be about $75k NZD landed here.

 

 

 

 

Yes but what's the point of a 2WD ute that can't haul much? Nobody will buy that version. It will be unsaleable second hand as well - like a 16GB wi-fi only iPad.






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  # 2359523 22-Nov-2019 21:47
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Sideface:

 

Geektastic:

 

Possibly the ugliest vehicle since always. Yours for 'only' NZ$120,000 + GST. ...

 

 

Strongly disagree.  🙃

 

I love it - it's a thing of quite stunning beauty.

 

A brilliant example of in-your-face, take-it-or-leave-it, totally original design.

 

The only "ugly" part is the price tag.

 

When i win Lotto I'll buy a fleet of them.   🙂

 

 


Stay where you are. I am having you arrested for offences against good taste.






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  # 2359526 22-Nov-2019 22:03
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Specs - great
Price - decent
Looks - oh dear...

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  # 2359529 22-Nov-2019 22:26
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What happens when you only get given a ruler and a compass and told to design a truck! The underlying performance figures, particularly the tow capacities, look good, but when it was first revealed I thought the shape was a joke.

 

Ford and Rivian must be laughing their whatsits off.

 

I did like the YouTube comment that it looked like an F117 (stealth fighter) and a DeLorean had mated and the Cybertrk was the result.





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  # 2359573 22-Nov-2019 23:39
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Wow.. I haven’t seen such low polygons since the original PlayStation games. This is definitely an ‘acquired taste’ design.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2359574 22-Nov-2019 23:55
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If it is exposed stainless like the demo, good luck finding someone to fix it if you have a prang.


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  # 2359575 22-Nov-2019 23:58
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I think the problem is that it looks homemade, and I guess that is why peopel think it looks like it has come out of 'mad max'. It doesn't look hi tech. It almost looks like it was dsigned by a committee. If you are building a ute yourself, you don't have the ability to do curved panels, so you would make something this sort of shape. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if Top gear hasn't built something that looks like this on a past episode. Also the wheel arches are almost identical to by old trailer. Surely they could have done something about those. I think there has been some inspiration with the delorean, especially with the stainless steel panels. But at least the delorean look sleek and elegant back in the 80's.

 

There are however some things I do like, such as the headlight strips. I think it is a concept car, rather than something that will come into production. I can't see how it will pass the pedestrian safty tests, as being hit by something that sharp will cut you in half. The other think I liked was those ATVs at the end, which improved the look of it, and looked like spoiler when it drove onto the back of the ute.. I hope they are selling those, they were far more interesting.


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  # 2359576 23-Nov-2019 00:02
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Journeyman:

Is this for real? Is that its actual name? Is this a concept design? Am I in the real world?



Very similar to this Alfa Romeo concept car from 1968.





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  # 2359577 23-Nov-2019 00:03
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I got the dimensions wrong in an earlier post.

Vehicle is:

 

231.7" long (6022mm)

 

79.8in wide (2026mm)

 

75.0in high (1905mm)

 

6.5ft bed length (1981.2)

 

and seats 6

 

 

 

That's quite a bit bigger than a ranger wildtrak (5426mm long, 1860mm wide without mirrors, 1848 high).

 


The extra 600mm of length will mean it will struggle to fit in tighter NZ car parks. On the other hand, the Tesla tray is 500mm longer than that of a ranger which would be quite desirable to some buyers.

 

I stand by my original comment regarding weights. The GVM of this vehicle with a 3500lb payload is likely to tip it over the 3,500kg threshold of it being a heavy vehicle in NZ. (not much difference other than a lower max speed limit)

 

 

 

Geektastic:

 

Yes but what's the point of a 2WD ute that can't haul much? Nobody will buy that version. It will be unsaleable second hand as well - like a 16GB wi-fi only iPad.

 

 

 

 

What do you mean, can't haul much?

The Tesla has a 1590kg payload. For comparison the popular ranger wildtrak 3.2L 4wd double cab has a 929kg payload. Also the bed is 33% longer (and will be wider too), so capacity will be decent.

With regards to towing, the RWD Tesla has a 7,500+lb. (3402+kg). This is pretty close to the 3500kg limit for a light trailer in NZ. Towing over 3500 in NZ kicks in trucking rules, so is quite a headache for people doing it non-commercially, so is quite rare. As such a higher towing limit than 3500kg is not particually useful in NZ.

 

I know that the Ranger, Hilux etc are available with a 3500kg rating, but this is largely unusable in the real world (without exceeding other manufactures parameters). This is due to the fairly low 6000kg GVM limit on the thai bult utes. Take a 4wd 3.2L ranger Wildtrak for example, kerb weight is 2,271kg. Once you deduct the kerb weight, and a 3500kg trailer, a 50kg towbar, and a 30kg lid /canopy, the ranger is left with 149kg of payload, not even enough for two larger adults, let alone any cargo...


With regards to who would buy a 2wd ute, the answer is heaps of people. They have recently enjoyed a massive surge in popularity due to the Ranger Hi-Rider and Hilux Prerunner. Turns out there is a substantial market that likes the looks, ground clearance and tire / suspension of a 4wd ute without the need to lug around the 4wd bits (adds weight, cutting into payload and hurting performance / economy. Plus adds more bits to potentially break), or forking out the approx $12,500 premium ford asks for the 4wd bits.

Most people arn't going to hit up 4wd trails & beaches in their new $75k+ Tesla, even if it is scratch resistant.


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  # 2359578 23-Nov-2019 00:13
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Coming soon from the Producers of Airwolf and Knight Rider....Cybertruk!

 

 

 

A self-driving pick-up truck on a mission from its creator, a mad genius, to fight crime and defend the American Way! Oo-Ra!






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  # 2359583 23-Nov-2019 00:35
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One of the ugliest things I have ever seen.

 

But, quite possibly a death trap too.

 

One of it's features seems to be an ultra hard shell.

 

Most vehicles use collapsing sections to lower forces on the occupants in a crash.


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I like it; my first thought was “is it really like that?”, and I thought about it overnight.

 

I think the design $ for the Model 3 obviously went into the Cybertruck (just trolling ... ignore that comment).

 

The exoskeleton approach is revolutionary for pickup trucks and I bet will enable a lot of function. Air suspension is pretty cool, 220v outlets. I do wonder if other wheels will be available, a bit worried the show vehicle wheels might clog up with mud.

 

i will probably pre-order the dual motor after a bit.

 

it is blimmin huge though.





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  # 2359630 23-Nov-2019 09:17
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Scott3:

I got the dimensions wrong in an earlier post.

Vehicle is:


231.7" long (6022mm)


79.8in wide (2026mm)


75.0in high (1905mm)


6.5ft bed length (1981.2)


and seats 6


 


That's quite a bit bigger than a ranger wildtrak (5426mm long, 1860mm wide without mirrors, 1848 high).



The extra 600mm of length will mean it will struggle to fit in tighter NZ car parks. On the other hand, the Tesla tray is 500mm longer than that of a ranger which would be quite desirable to some buyers.


I stand by my original comment regarding weights. The GVM of this vehicle with a 3500lb payload is likely to tip it over the 3,500kg threshold of it being a heavy vehicle in NZ. (not much difference other than a lower max speed limit)


 


Geektastic:


Yes but what's the point of a 2WD ute that can't haul much? Nobody will buy that version. It will be unsaleable second hand as well - like a 16GB wi-fi only iPad.



 


What do you mean, can't haul much?

The Tesla has a 1590kg payload. For comparison the popular ranger wildtrak 3.2L 4wd double cab has a 929kg payload. Also the bed is 33% longer (and will be wider too), so capacity will be decent.

With regards to towing, the RWD Tesla has a 7,500+lb. (3402+kg). This is pretty close to the 3500kg limit for a light trailer in NZ. Towing over 3500 in NZ kicks in trucking rules, so is quite a headache for people doing it non-commercially, so is quite rare. As such a higher towing limit than 3500kg is not particually useful in NZ.


I know that the Ranger, Hilux etc are available with a 3500kg rating, but this is largely unusable in the real world (without exceeding other manufactures parameters). This is due to the fairly low 6000kg GVM limit on the thai bult utes. Take a 4wd 3.2L ranger Wildtrak for example, kerb weight is 2,271kg. Once you deduct the kerb weight, and a 3500kg trailer, a 50kg towbar, and a 30kg lid /canopy, the ranger is left with 149kg of payload, not even enough for two larger adults, let alone any cargo...


With regards to who would buy a 2wd ute, the answer is heaps of people. They have recently enjoyed a massive surge in popularity due to the Ranger Hi-Rider and Hilux Prerunner. Turns out there is a substantial market that likes the looks, ground clearance and tire / suspension of a 4wd ute without the need to lug around the 4wd bits (adds weight, cutting into payload and hurting performance / economy. Plus adds more bits to potentially break), or forking out the approx $12,500 premium ford asks for the 4wd bits.

Most people arn't going to hit up 4wd trails & beaches in their new $75k+ Tesla, even if it is scratch resistant.



Most people who but a Ute for actual work are going to want 4wd and aren't going to buy it based on economics unless it can be made to compare financially with the current vehicles they buy.

Tradesmen and farmers aren't poseurs buying Chelsea Tractors for the school run.





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