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  # 2360487 25-Nov-2019 14:19
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networkn:

 

Try reading my last reply again.

 

 

 

 

This?

 

I wasn't referring to the fact that some people "like" a product

 

Except in the post of yours I originally replied to, you were. You called it ugly (fine) and then implied that anyone that sees it differently is part of the "cult of Elon" (not fine).


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  # 2360491 25-Nov-2019 14:31
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Scott3:

richms:


They hyped how high it can go, but how low does it drop? That would help load things in if it can hit the ground like a lowrider.



Below is a photo of it in loading mode (I assume with the front and rear air suspension maxed out in opposite dimensions). For scale the tires are 35 inches tall, and the quad is apparently a modified Yamaha raptor which is 1100mm tall (stock)


My rough scaling off the tire size puts the rear floor of the bed at around 600mm high which is pretty workable. Integrated ramp (assuming you have space to deploy it) allowing people to walk up into the tray. That plus the retractable roller (vs a hard lid or canopy) allowing the loading person to stand would make life easier than common NZ ute configurations.



Is the ramp standard?
Is it permanent double cab or is that space flexible?

Given the weight of the thing I'd be inclined to fit a massive electrically operated on slideout tray for easy tool and equipment access. Oops just used a 3rd parking space ; ).

 
 
 
 


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  # 2360492 25-Nov-2019 14:32
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Scott3:

richms:


They hyped how high it can go, but how low does it drop? That would help load things in if it can hit the ground like a lowrider.



Below is a photo of it in loading mode (I assume with the front and rear air suspension maxed out in opposite dimensions). For scale the tires are 35 inches tall, and the quad is apparently a modified Yamaha raptor which is 1100mm tall (stock)


My rough scaling off the tire size puts the rear floor of the bed at around 600mm high which is pretty workable. Integrated ramp (assuming you have space to deploy it) allowing people to walk up into the tray. That plus the retractable roller (vs a hard lid or canopy) allowing the loading person to stand would make life easier than common NZ ute configurations.



Is the ramp standard?
Is it permanent double cab or is that space flexible?

Given the weight of the thing and lack of sideload I'd be inclined to fit a massive electrically operated slideout tray for easy tool and equipment access. Oops just used a 3rd parking space ; ).

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  # 2360493 25-Nov-2019 14:34
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networkn: This thing was so painful from start to finish. He is about the worst spokesperson for any product I have perhaps ever seen. He is so awkward, it's painful beyond belief to watch

Sleep deprivation.

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  # 2360494 25-Nov-2019 14:38
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gzt:
Is the ramp standard?
Is it permanent double cab or is that space flexible?

Given the weight of the thing and lack of sideload I'd be inclined to fit a massive electrically operated slideout tray for easy tool and equipment access. Oops just used a 3rd parking space ; ).

 

It seems to be implied that the ramp is a standard part of the tailgate. It's double cab only, though. I've seen it mentioned that the rear seats can fold down but there's no access from the bed to the cabin




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  # 2360529 25-Nov-2019 15:40
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Assuming this comes to NZ, I think it will be very interesting (even outside of people who like the EV bits of it). This will be the first time we can get a new american sized pick up truck at reasonable cost.

Currently the only option in this space is the Ram utes, with the RAM 2500 being the closest match for the Tesla. Pricing for it starts at $169,990.

 

A lot of people regard the common NZ twincabs as being too small. None of them can comfortably seat adults in the second row, and the tray's are pretty tiny too compared to US pickups.

Kinda sucks for everybody else though, no space to open doors next to them in parking lots. That said, a decent chunk of people use Landcruiser 200's and ranger raptors as daily drivers that are a similar width (but much shorter).

premiumtouring:

 

This thing is straight fire 🔥

Can we have a Model S in stainless steel unibody, too please? Paint chips will be a thing of the past. Perhaps Jony Ive can be involved, so it can be unibody aluminium? lol. 

 

But seriously, the kids immediately loved it. (I'm sure there is a slew of jokes as to why)

 

Just with everything it takes mature minds a little bit longer to adapt to change and embrace the future.

 

I would order one in a heart beat.. but as someone with a land yacht that is already 5m long (Model S), the 5.9m length and 2M width will categorically be a nightmare on our roads. Someone said Hummer H1 - that couldn't be more accurate!

 

 

I don't know if your are joking? For those who are not aware, the model s does use aluminium unibody construction. It comes painted though, as you would expect at its pricepoint.

I don't know if an H1 hummer is a great comparison the hummer is about 200mm wider, but way shorter.

Given the cybertruck is 6022 x 2026 x 1981 (LxWxH), the best comparison would be a dodge ram 2500: 6030 x 2009 x 1974, or a ford transit 350L (ignoring height): 5981 x 2059 x 2547.

 

 

 

Obraik:

 

gzt:
Is the ramp standard?
Is it permanent double cab or is that space flexible?

Given the weight of the thing and lack of sideload I'd be inclined to fit a massive electrically operated slideout tray for easy tool and equipment access. Oops just used a 3rd parking space ; ).

 

It seems to be implied that the ramp is a standard part of the tailgate. It's double cab only, though. I've seen it mentioned that the rear seats can fold down but there's no access from the bed to the cabin

 

 

Yup. Presentation implied is was standard. There is a solid bulkhead (with window) between the third row and the tray.

There is a render with a camping slide-out fitted:

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2360530 25-Nov-2019 15:41
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Not my cup of tea bleh, I would throw rocks at one if I seen it, oh wait it would break its unbreakable glass (snigger)





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  # 2360554 25-Nov-2019 16:57
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With the size of thing here in NZ, other electric car owners will end up complaining about it taking up two charging parks at once. They’ll no longer be ICE’d at the charging station, but cybertrucked.

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  # 2360563 25-Nov-2019 17:30
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Way too big for NZ

 

Ugly

 

Lots of sharp angles that I can not imagine are very pedestrian friendly in accidents

 

Simone's Truckla is what it should have been, a simple ute.

 

 

Eh, not that I could ever afford either, but, yeah, I wouldn't even if I could.





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  # 2360564 25-Nov-2019 17:31
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empacher48: With the size of thing here in NZ, other electric car owners will end up complaining about it taking up two charging parks at once. They’ll no longer be ICE’d at the charging station, but cybertrucked.

 

Yes, they're going to need to rethink some of their supercharger bays. I don't think any in NZ are designed with towing in mind even though the Model X can be set up for towing. People won't be happy with having to unhitch whatever they're towing with their Cybertruck just to charge up.


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  # 2360573 25-Nov-2019 17:58
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Scott3:

 

A lot of people regard the common NZ twincabs as being too small. None of them can comfortably seat adults in the second row, and the tray's are pretty tiny too compared to US pickups.

 

You have to be kidding - my Dmax has got absolutely masses of room for 2 or 3 adults to be seated in comfort in the rear seats.  I think Rangers / BT 50 about the same, Navara a bit smaller maybe - but still heaps of rear leg room - more than most cars, and oodles of head room. 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2360579 25-Nov-2019 18:23
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Obraik:

 

People won't be happy with having to unhitch whatever they're towing with their Cybertruck just to charge up.

 

 

AA suggested after testing that the range for a Model X 100D dropped from 565km to about 200km when towing a Haines Hunter 525 @ 1300kg.

 

 


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  # 2360600 25-Nov-2019 18:59
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Fred99:

 

Scott3:

 

A lot of people regard the common NZ twincabs as being too small. None of them can comfortably seat adults in the second row, and the tray's are pretty tiny too compared to US pickups.

 

You have to be kidding - my Dmax has got absolutely masses of room for 2 or 3 adults to be seated in comfort in the rear seats.  I think Rangers / BT 50 about the same, Navara a bit smaller maybe - but still heaps of rear leg room - more than most cars, and oodles of head room. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it depedns on teh model and brand. Mazda (Ford)  BOunty did a few different sized back seated areas. Some with half back doors that open in the opposite direction,  and a bench seat, and some with full sized doors and full sized seats. I think the room in the back was reasonable on the full sized twincab one.


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  # 2360625 25-Nov-2019 20:11
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sleemanj:

 

Way too big for NZ

 

Ugly

 

Lots of sharp angles 

 

 

It;s got very sleek line

 

Singular intended.

 

Great to see electric vehicle options increasing but yeah nah, utes of any propulsion are not my thing. Always admire the 9 point turns in the parking lots though.

 

If ICE utes are heavy on gas then electric utes are going to be heavy on electrons - this seems like a backward step for the planet.




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  # 2360626 25-Nov-2019 20:15
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I got my length unit conversion wrong above. The cybertruck's length is 231.7 in or 5,885mm.

Same width as a ranger raptor, but half a meter longer.

 

Consider that the current marketing campaign for the ranger raptor (which is a lot wider than the normal ranger) is "your going to need a bigger garage"

With regards to back seat space, While modern twincabs in NZ have substantially improved in this regard, I still don't consider the back seats a comfortable place to be. Floor is very high, seatback is upright, and seat in front needs to be moved a long way forward to I can actually fit. (i'm 183cm tall). I thought the sloped roof profile in the cyber-truck would lead to poor second row head room (as per the model s, where my head touches the roof), but apparently the configuration is spacious and comfortable, even for people doing test rides that were 6 foot 4 inches. 

 

 

 

 


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