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  #2368009 4-Dec-2019 11:17
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One of the ways to improve safety (work place, air-lines, mines, anything) is to have rules to stop people from committing dangerous acts, but rules on their own are useless unless they are enforced, so all normal safety systems have an enforcement element.

 

The road code is one of the systems to reduce the inherent danger of driving (along with crash barriers, WOF, street lights, brake lights, air-bags etc), however the rules aren't really enforced in NZ, so the the road code and licencing system is a farce - which is reflected in Auckland's sky-rocketing road toll. 

 

If the police don't believe enforcing laws is a core police duty then it is high time to reconsider what taxes are being spent on.  Traffic Police were once a thing and the message from police seems to be that they need to be a thing again.

 

This reducing speed limits on 1,000 roads to 30 kph is complete bollix. If everyone drives at 30kph then yes, the skyrocketing number of collisions will naturally produce fewer fatalities but the problem isn't the speed of the collisions, the problem is the collisions that never used to happen (at such high rates) and should not be happening now. This solution to road safety if taken to its ultimate destination is to have a speed limit of zero kph. Who is the genius who thinks that someone who ignores the road code is going to obey speed limits? Yes camera's everywhere will force people to drive at 30 kph, but would it be better if everyone drove properly in the first place and we got the people off the road who can't obey the road code?


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  #2368011 4-Dec-2019 11:21
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But how do you actually catch those other bad habits is the issue?

Speed testing and red light camera can be automated. Bad driving cant be.

If you see a police car you will drive differently but once they are gone you revert to dick head mode

 
 
 
 


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  #2368021 4-Dec-2019 11:58
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❗ENFORCEMENT - ENFORCEMENT ❗️

 

Again I will repeat want posted in another Topic:

 

 

Still think we should have a similar licencing system as in Australia.

 

     

  1. Written driving test
  2. Yellow L Plate = 1 yr very restricted with minimum driving 120 hours log book
  3. Practical driving test (performed on country roads not just town/city)
  4. Red P plate = 1 yr restricted with zero defaults
  5. Green P plate = 2 or 3 yr restricted with limited defaults
  6. Maybe an advanced driving test - skid pan & chicane etc
  7. Full licence
  8. Restrictions being; zero alcohol & drugs, speed limits, licence type, number & age of passengers

 

I miss the P plate system from Australia, it gave me that "danger Will Robinson" heads up that I had an inexperienced driver near me.

 

 

 





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  #2368041 4-Dec-2019 12:13
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FineWine:

 

❗ENFORCEMENT - ENFORCEMENT ❗️

 

Again I will repeat want posted in another Topic:

 

Still think we should have a similar licencing system as in Australia.

 

     

  1. Written driving test
  2. Yellow L Plate = 1 yr very restricted with minimum driving 120 hours log book
  3. Practical driving test (performed on country roads not just town/city)
  4. Red P plate = 1 yr restricted with zero defaults
  5. Green P plate = 2 or 3 yr restricted with limited defaults
  6. Maybe an advanced driving test - skid pan & chicane etc
  7. Full licence
  8. Restrictions being; zero alcohol & drugs, speed limits, licence type, number & age of passengers

 

I miss the P plate system from Australia, it gave me that "danger Will Robinson" heads up that I had an inexperienced driver near me.

 

 

 

 

I like the P plate system for restricted licence holders...like you, it's a good visual warning and it's maybe a prompt for those that don't like having them to do a defensive driving course or similar and speed up the process to get their full licence. 

 

 

 

Also - International Licences...didn't it used to be 3 months max, then you had to get a NZ licence? Let's go back to that - then maybe they'll have to read the road code. Not a foreign Johnny bashing - just an observation that drivers (many of whom are from left-hand-drive countries) from overseas are often on autopilot and will drift to the wrong side of the road occasionally, use the incorrect rules at intersections and generally drive like they do at home - like I would overseas...but this shouldn't be tolerated for more than a short time period. 





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