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  # 2369701 6-Dec-2019 16:15
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MadEngineer: I read that as a “guess”. Certainly no certainty.

 

 

 

clearly that is what resulted

 

Seems certain to me :)

 

 


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  # 2369702 6-Dec-2019 16:17
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I recall something about Porsches and other cars having something similar to little black boxes that keep telemetry information, so if that's the case, that should help narrow the cause.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2369705 6-Dec-2019 16:22
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I think it was Aliens. There has been a lot of it about but I thought they were sticking to the Malls 😀 👽





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  # 2369717 6-Dec-2019 16:45
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The GT3 is a race-oriented version of the 911; I’ve driven one on several occasions and it pays to be a good driver. It’s a bit twitchy with PASM off, even with it on it’s easy to over-correct. Also very easy to go fast, so hard to keep to the speed limit.

 

Personally, I think it’s a bit much for the road as a daily car. 

 

I reckon the guy made a mistake, he wouldn’t be the first, more like the 100,000th.





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  # 2369725 6-Dec-2019 17:00
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My brother has had a Porche GT3 (a '94 I think) and I've driven it a few times. From my limited experience, I get the feeling that if you treat it with any disrespect at all, it would happily bite you - probably in the fashion reported. Sure they corner like they are on rails, but lose focus for a second and drift outside your lane at speed where the marbles are and I imagine you'd find yourself in trouble pretty quick. Unless you have track track experience then you're unlikely to recover in time.

 

Yes it's possible there was a mechanical failure, but unlikely given that most owners of such machines keep them meticulously serviced. Even blowing a tyre at the speed limit in one of these things would likely not result in a roll-over given the incredibly low centre of gravity that they have. Of course that becomes a different story if they are pushing the limits of traction in a bend at the same time.

 

Like other armchair commentators here, I suspect he found himself alone on the road, came around the bend, saw the straight with nothing coming and decided to give it the beans, possibly hit some shingle on the edge of the road (or had a blow out) and lost control just long enough for it to drift onto the berm where it dug in and rolled. 

 

My brother reserves his "playing silly buggers" for track days for this very reason.


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  # 2369729 6-Dec-2019 17:12
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 "I don't know if the rear wheel locked up or something went wrong"  This says it all: He can't drive. "Lack of Skill" is what went wrong.

 

Maybe spending a bit less on upgrading the car and bit more on upgrading the driver would have been a good investment





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  # 2369734 6-Dec-2019 17:49
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-"We rolled two-and-a-half times, but none of the airbags went off."-

How many airbags in this thing. No frontal impact? Front fairing is destroyed they can catch tho lights are smashed maybe landed on those during a flip and no sensors there?

Maybe a loss traction gain traction heels over head flip?


 
 
 
 


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  # 2369735 6-Dec-2019 17:50
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networkn:

 

I recall something about Porsches and other cars having something similar to little black boxes that keep telemetry information, so if that's the case, that should help narrow the cause.

 

 

Yeah they do.  Problem is though, IIRC, that the data is encrypted and Porsche don't hand it over to authorities willy-nilly, as it could be bad for business.

 

 


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  # 2369749 6-Dec-2019 18:18
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I recall something about Porsches and other cars having something similar to little black boxes that keep telemetry information, so if that's the case, that should help narrow the cause.



Yeah they do.  Problem is though, IIRC, that the data is encrypted and Porsche don't hand it over to authorities willy-nilly, as it could be bad for business.


 



Porsche have as much if not more to lose reputationally from claims the car randomly flipped. They will be keen to check this out now this gentleman has made public claims.

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gzt: -"We rolled two-and-a-half times, but none of the airbags went off."-

How many airbags in this thing. No frontal impact? Front fairing is destroyed they can catch tho lights are smashed maybe landed on those during a flip and no sensors there?

 

Airbags don't deploy unless they're absolutely necessary. In a lot of situations they can do more harm than good.


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  # 2369753 6-Dec-2019 18:42
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Combination of spontaneous auto collision avoidance activation with traction control off? The black box will easily record that one. Speculation but it's one of few systems that can act autonomously if the car has it.

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  # 2369844 6-Dec-2019 21:10
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mdooher:

 

 "I don't know if the rear wheel locked up or something went wrong"  This says it all: He can't drive. "Lack of Skill" is what went wrong.

 

Maybe spending a bit less on upgrading the car and bit more on upgrading the driver would have been a good investment

 

 

+ he didn’t want to admit to his girlfriend that he was driving like a dork and/or didn’t have the requisite skill to which you refer - so the crash was spontaneous and had nothing to do with him.





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  # 2369853 6-Dec-2019 21:35
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Not generally common.

Much like "the car hit a power pole" that is often reported.

The car might have done, but in 99% of cases I would think that the reason it did so had naff all to do with the car...!





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  # 2369919 7-Dec-2019 06:48
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Even blowing a tyre at the speed limit in one of these things would likely not result in a roll-over given the incredibly low centre of gravity that they have.

 

Like other armchair commentators here, I suspect he found himself alone on the road, came around the bend, saw the straight with nothing coming and decided to give it the beans, possibly hit some shingle on the edge of the road (or had a blow out) and lost control just long enough for it to drift onto the berm where it dug in and rolled. 

 

 

All the tyres look to be still inflated in the video.

 

My guess... he came into the corner (too) fast, then partway round panicked and braked, which caused snap oversteer and a spin, and then going off the road into the relatively steep drain caused the roll. Rolling 2.5 times from 100kph is unexpected, but if it was going down the side of the drain I guess it's possible.

 

 


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  # 2369947 7-Dec-2019 08:56
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I learnt to drive around those roads, my uncle and auntie have a place nearby. The roads are better than what they were, but they're not terribly wide and quite strongly cambered. 

 

I'm surprised it would be any kind of car failure..

 

And how wonderfully flat the bottom of the car is!!


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