New car availability. Many models (especially low range 4x4's) sold out or waitlist.

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#2711250 22-May-2021 11:47

cshwone:

Scott3:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/125155189/long-waits-ahead-for-new-vehicle-buyers

Could someone possibly have read this thread and turned it into a story?

Nope. It's not even news. Well known across the industry on certain in demand cars, utes and SUV's.

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#2711256 22-May-2021 12:15

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Yes we did, I made sure we were getting the 2021 model which has privacy glass and wireless Apple CarPlay. We’d have loved the CX-9 Takami, they had one in the showroom, stunning!

It's good to see that the latest iteration with Wireless CarPlay is now available. I have read that it was coming, but Mazda don't yet seem to be promoting it on their web site so I'm guessing they have a bit of old stock to get rid of.

I also went for the GSX AWD variant when I bought mine a couple of years ago and I really think that's the sweet spot. On the limited I wouldn't benefit from the electric seats because I'm the only person who drives the car, nor the sunroof because I'm prone to sunburn, nor the Bose audio because I was never happy with the Bose system in my Mazda 3.

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#2711299 22-May-2021 13:56

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Yes we did, I made sure we were getting the 2021 model which has privacy glass and wireless Apple CarPlay. We’d have loved the CX-9 Takami, they had one in the showroom, stunning!

So here’s the interesting thing. Your infotainment is actually the previous generation but they added wireless CarPlay which I would LOVE but doesn’t exist on the newer ones you see on that CX9 and Mazda3.

Strange that they implemented the wireless capability on the existing screen and not that new one.

Yes that's right it is the old one. It was described as a "new" infotainment system so before I saw it I was expecting it to be like the one in the CX-30 and Mazda3, but it's still the same 8-incher just with added wireless CarPlay. I believe Android Auto is still wired though.

That's ok though, I'm almost embarrassed to say, but we also bought a new Mazda3 GTX which does have the new system. Mazda3 for me and the CX-5 for the wife and family outings!

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#2711300 22-May-2021 13:58

alasta:

corksta:

Yes we did, I made sure we were getting the 2021 model which has privacy glass and wireless Apple CarPlay. We’d have loved the CX-9 Takami, they had one in the showroom, stunning!

It's good to see that the latest iteration with Wireless CarPlay is now available. I have read that it was coming, but Mazda don't yet seem to be promoting it on their web site so I'm guessing they have a bit of old stock to get rid of.

I also went for the GSX AWD variant when I bought mine a couple of years ago and I really think that's the sweet spot. On the limited I wouldn't benefit from the electric seats because I'm the only person who drives the car, nor the sunroof because I'm prone to sunburn, nor the Bose audio because I was never happy with the Bose system in my Mazda 3.

You're right, their website is a bit behind with the updated models. I had the Bose system in my MPS, but driving the new cars and the factory system still sounds really good, even at high volume, so it was a lot of extra money just for a few niceties.

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#2711308 22-May-2021 14:05

The Mazda dealer must love you! I have to admit, the three year free servicing is really attractive.

Pricing in New Zealand is also considered to be cheap, especially with the free servicing. I browse the Aussie and American Mazda forums and our pricing is cheaper than our neighbour's.

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#2711324 22-May-2021 14:10

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The Mazda dealer must love you! I have to admit, the three year free servicing is really attractive.

Pricing in New Zealand is also considered to be cheap, especially with the free servicing. I browse the Aussie and American Mazda forums and our pricing is cheaper than our neighbour's.

Yes it is pretty sharp compared to overseas. Five years free servicing on the Mazda3 as well which is great.

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#2711326 22-May-2021 14:16

I wouldn't buy a new mazda until they bring back the touch screen . Using apple carplay without touch screen, and having to use the wheel would be a chore. The mazda 3 I drive has both a touch screen and wheel, and would be horrible to use if I had to rely on the wheel. Almost all other brands have touchscreen, so it was a step backwards to remove it and move the screen further away on the dash like they did, and their reasons for doing so don't make any sense to me or car reviewers who usually pick this omission up in reviews. Also I dislike the look of the new Mazda 3, especially compared to the previous version, and it seems to be a controversial design. The sedan is slightly better than the hatch. Their SUVs look far better.

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#2711329 22-May-2021 14:25

It was strange to begin with but after about 120km of test driving and using the dial to navigate maps, music and send text messages it felt fine and reasonably intuitive, just takes slightly longer to do certain things depending on how many rotations of the dial you have to do to get where you need to be.

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#2711331 22-May-2021 14:28

corksta: It was strange to begin with but after about 120km of test driving and using the dial to navigate maps, music and send text messages it felt fine and reasonably intuitive, just takes slightly longer to do certain things depending on how many rotations of the dial you have to do to get where you need to be.

Agree, this is my first vehicle with a computer inside - my last car was a 2003 Subaru. I don't find the wheel hard to use. It does its job.

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#2711356 22-May-2021 16:11

corksta: It was strange to begin with but after about 120km of test driving and using the dial to navigate maps, music and send text messages it felt fine and reasonably intuitive, just takes slightly longer to do certain things depending on how many rotations of the dial you have to do to get where you need to be.

I don't disagree, but the current mazda I drive which is the previous model, has both the dial and the touch screen. So I am using to the dial for some things, but use the touch screen for inputting addresses and moving the map etc. Apple carplay for example is designed for touch so it would be a PITA to only have a dial option IMO.

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#2711373 22-May-2021 16:23

My CX-5 has both touchscreen, but I only ever use the scroll wheel to interact with it and it's fine for me.

Having said that, I'm not overly attached to my phone so I really only use CarPlay for podcasts and IP radio. Maybe it's different if you use all of the features.

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#2711652 23-May-2021 11:50

Worth a watch if you're considering buying a car at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VU1jdEziM4

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#2711708 23-May-2021 12:58

Technofreak:

Worth a watch if you're considering buying a car at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VU1jdEziM4

We paid a deposit on a new car for Mrs Code a few days ago - to be ready for pickup in three weeks.

I used several negotiating tactics exactly as outlined in this video. We were trading-in her existing car and we had set our ‘best expectation’ change-over price in the morning before I went into the dealership on my own (for the reason advised by Cadogan) - and used her as the unseen ‘higher authority’ to whom I must defer and who would be making the final decision based on price. There were also some other aspect to the tactics - another dealer with the same car and a similar car from another brand - both true.

The price was lowered a couple of times further before I made comments about needing to go to talk to my wife and/or talk to the other dealer(s). Salesman definitely did not want me to leave (as Cadogan says in the video) - “What can I do to get you to make the decision here and now?”

Ended up (without needing to consult Mrs Code) at just $1,000 more than our best-expectation price and was very happy with that. Thought we got a really good deal - but I’m sure the salesman thought he did too - they’re far from silly. As Cadogan also says, it was a game we were both playing and both knew we were playing.

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#2711712 23-May-2021 13:12

eracode:
Technofreak:

Worth a watch if you're considering buying a car at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VU1jdEziM4

We paid a deposit on a new car for Mrs Code a few days ago - to be ready for pickup in three weeks.

I used several negotiating tactics exactly as outlined in this video. We were trading-in her existing car and we had set our ‘best expectation’ change-over price in the morning before I went into the dealership on my own (for the reason advised by Cadogan) - and used her as the unseen ‘higher authority’ to whom I must defer and who would be making the final decision based on price. There were also some other aspect to the tactics - another dealer with the same car and a similar car from another brand - both true.

The price was lowered a couple of times further before I made comments about needing to go to talk to my wife. Salesman definitely did not want me to leave (as Cadogan says in the video) - “What can I do to get you to make the decision here and now?”

Ended up (without needing to consult Mrs Code) at just $1,000 more than our best-expectation price and was very happy with that. Thought we got a really good deal - but I’m sure the salesman thought he did too - they’re far from silly. As Codgan also says, it was a game we were both playing and both knew we were playing.

Are you going to tell us what you got and what you got it for? 😛

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#2711781 23-May-2021 17:10

turtleattacks:

Are you going to tell us what you got and what you got it for? 😛

Rather not state brand - starts to get a bit too close.

It's a Euro car - base model plus one factory-fitted package. The verifiable all-up on-road price was $54,890. They offered to discount it to $52,990 over the phone, then by email, without any prompting and before I had been in there. The game had begun.

Then I went in for them to assess the trade-in - a small 2014 Euro car, 55,000 km which we had from new. The retail value according to Trademe was about $15,000 - but I know no-one pays asking price on Trade and that figure is not comparable to a trade-in price.

They assessed the trade, came back pointing out its defects (mainly normal wear and tear for a seven year old car) and said the retail value of the car was $9,000. I said I disagreed and pointed out my observations from Trademe.

All this was designed to lower my expectations - as I knew they would try to do. Said they would give us $4,500 for the trade which resulted in a change-over price of $48,490. This was when I started to talk about going home to consult my wife, other dealers etc

He asked the question about ‘what can I do today’ and what changeover price was I looking for. I said I doubted he could get there, he said ‘try me’. I told him Mrs Code and I had discussed it and didn’t want to pay more than $45k. That was true to the extent that we wanted to see how close we could get to $45k.

He said ‘give me a minute’ and went away for 10-15 minutes. Came back and after a bit of preamble said $46,000. I said ‘done’ and we shook hands.

Maybe I could have pressed him further but there’s a point where you have judge what’s fair and what further pushing may start to piss people off (maybe that doesn’t matter in this situation but not my style). Right or wrong, I was very happy with where we had got to.

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