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  # 1196349 12-Dec-2014 14:48
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Biggest annoyance so far is the tablet is 1280x800.
There are quite a few windows store apps that require 1366x768.

You can't even install them.

Specifically dynamics CRM. Grrrr.

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  # 1196373 12-Dec-2014 15:22
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Fair call

You have to remember the price of this thing. You get what you pay for.

Its us$99 and not shipping with vulnerabilities, security misconfigurations and security backdoors like low cost Android tablets

https://bluebox.com/blog/business/santa-or-the-grinch-android-tablet-analysis-2014/


 
 
 
 


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  # 1196398 12-Dec-2014 16:01
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Nice try diverting the conversation, but security is a different chat from whether I can run apps. A quick bite though - I am sure those $50 android tablets can run the Dynamics CRM for tablets app! The most secure tablet on that list was $99 - same as the HP.

This is a cool tablet.
I am using it as a laptop replacement - hooked up to a 22inch monitor with USB OTG and a displaylink adaptor.
Using Managed Desktop from www.mhacloud.com - shameless plug :)
An amazing portable thinclient and seriously - almost a pc replacement once you have the gadgets.

However when I want to use it as a tablet it falls down.
IE is a great mobile browser, but the store and this tablet do not seem to play nice.

Microsoft is the productivity company - hook me up with some sweet sweet productivity apps!

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  # 1196402 12-Dec-2014 16:08
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not a diversion just pointing out you get what you pay for ;)

There are 2 solutions here.  Buy a device with higher 1366x768 specs or Dynamic app gets updated to support 1280x800

I'm not sure why the app doesn't support this but will find out.

Personally I think 7-8" companion tablets fall into the death valley between 6" Phablet, 7" Superphablet and proper 10" Tablets

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  # 1196439 12-Dec-2014 16:54
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Devils advocate - You don't read the specs of an iPad to know if it will run apps from the store.
Resolution is such a PITA one as well.

I have an iPAd - a 10" one, and basically don't use it.
My laptop is 12.5 inches, and the ipad while significantly lighter just isn't as flexible, that's been my daily driver.
I had a Surface pro, which was ok, but it was both too small as a laptop, and too big as a tablet. Essentially to be productive it needed to be docked.

I see with the 7 - 8" that it is small enough to be a tablet, and there is no confusion that it's a laptop/productivity device as well.
Some basic stuff - a few notes in one note, a bit of email and some crm updates (cough), but largely consumption.
Where it becomes cool (for me) is that with USB OTG I can essentially dock it, and it is a full fledged desktop replacement (using a hosted desktop).


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  # 1196442 12-Dec-2014 16:58
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Imagine being able to dock your phone into full size / mouse / keyboard and running your remote desktop into mhacloud from that

#Windows10

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  # 1196444 12-Dec-2014 17:03
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Yeah man - that I'm salivating for.
It will honestly be a single device world then - especially if the docks are cheap enough.

Honestly - it feels like we've been so close for so long,
Motorola Actrix
iPad with Citrix

But nothing has quite got it right.
Even this HP Stream is close, but not quite - we're getting another version in from Aliexpress to try - 2gb ram, and native hdmi out to see if that improve matters.
However brand counts a lot - nobody ever got fired for buying hp.




 
 
 
 


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  # 1196691 13-Dec-2014 08:08
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For anyone who wants a good keyboard w/stand and a mouse for the tablet, I am using the Microsoft Wedge Touch Mouse and Microsoft Wedge Mobile Keyboard, which comes with a keyboard cover that doubles as a tablet stand. It's now a pretty great note taking machine that I use at work as OneNote sync between devices. 

Most of the time at home I prefer using my MacBook Air for browsing because everything about it is better but an additional 13" laptop at work is a bit much. 




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  # 1196702 13-Dec-2014 09:18
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nathan: Fair call

You have to remember the price of this thing. You get what you pay for.

Its us$99 and not shipping with vulnerabilities, security misconfigurations and security backdoors like low cost Android tablets

https://bluebox.com/blog/business/santa-or-the-grinch-android-tablet-analysis-2014/



You are very much right here, people pay low $$ amounts for android devices from china and just think those baked in apps/things are just part of the OS when they could be stealing info and sending it god knows where.







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  # 1196704 13-Dec-2014 09:23
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A bit of an update on mine

Amazon has agreed to cover more of the cost to send it back and will refund the purchase price.
I picked up a local NZ one yesterday that does not have the problem so very happy with the device, still a bit pee'd off with the issues of the first one but that is life.





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mrtoken: A bit of an update on mine

Amazon has agreed to cover more of the cost to send it back and will refund the purchase price.
I picked up a local NZ one yesterday that does not have the problem so very happy with the device, still a bit pee'd off with the issues of the first one but that is life.






Glad that you finally had it resolved, sounds like you got unlucky with a faulty one. 




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  # 1198109 15-Dec-2014 21:38
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CokemonZ: I have a stream 8 from pbtech, the NZ version.
Can confirm, no 3g/4g.
32gb storage.
Ipass wifi included
Takes a 64gb micro SD card.

I had the wifi problem too - ramdomly disconnecting or showing as limited.

Updated the bios and installed the wireless drivers from the hp support site. 3 hours and no problems so far.


Are you sure about the 3G? The K2L01PA which seems to be the model stocked here makes mention of a microSim slot

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uk&dlc=en&docname=c04510817&lc=en&jumpid=reg_r1002_uken_c-001_title_r0001
http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Product.aspx?pdetail=P348539

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  # 1198115 15-Dec-2014 21:55
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The US version has mobile broadband on 8"

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  # 1198122 15-Dec-2014 22:00
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P1n3apqlExpr3ss:
CokemonZ: I have a stream 8 from pbtech, the NZ version.
Can confirm, no 3g/4g.
32gb storage.
Ipass wifi included
Takes a 64gb micro SD card.

I had the wifi problem too - ramdomly disconnecting or showing as limited.

Updated the bios and installed the wireless drivers from the hp support site. 3 hours and no problems so far.


Are you sure about the 3G? The K2L01PA which seems to be the model stocked here makes mention of a microSim slot

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uk&dlc=en&docname=c04510817&lc=en&jumpid=reg_r1002_uken_c-001_title_r0001
http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Product.aspx?pdetail=P348539


I know, Confused me too.
Nope - no 3G. taken off the back and checked everything.
I'll be damned if I can find it now, but I found a page. There are actually about 5 different models.
Some are 4g/3g supporting different bands and there is one with no 36/4g. That's the one we get.

The specs in the store are wrong.



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  # 1198137 15-Dec-2014 22:04
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nathan: The US version has mobile broadband on 8"


And NZ stock does not have a 3G modem at all? Odd how those links and pbtech make mentions of a microsim slot; or is it just an error handed down from HP's specs?

edit: Thanks cokemonz for clearing it up

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