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  # 1198139 15-Dec-2014 22:06
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For the HP Stream 8, the maintenance manual describes the differences as

HP Stream 8 Tablet model number 59xx (3G compatible)

HP Stream 8 Tablet model number 58xx (Wi-Fi compatible)

GPS (HP Stream 8 Tablet model numbers 59xx only)

SAR (HP Stream 8 Tablet model numbers 59xx only)

ref:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04499111

The HP Stream 8 Microsoft Signature model is a 5909:

Model number: Stream 8 5909 • Includes 1-year Office 365 Personal subscription • Includes 200MB T-Mobile 4G data per month for life of device • TPM 2.0

ref:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/HP-Stream-8-Signature-Edition-Tablet/productID.308781600


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  # 1198143 15-Dec-2014 22:12
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to add to this here is the link to the HP Forums I found the info on:
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Windows-Tablets/Hp-stream-8/td-p/4739002

the best post is copypasta here - no credit to me.

 

If you do a simple search on the main (US) HP dot com website for one of the model numbers (e.g. 5901), and click on the link that mentions "5901 support", you will find all the User guides, including the "Maintenance and Service Guide".

 

 

 

This Maintenance and Service guide is for ALL Stream 8 models, which questions the response given by the 'HP Support', because it states:

 

 

 

- All (three different) 58xx models have NO sim-slot/WWAN-antenna or module, while all (five) 59xx models DO have a sim-slot and WWAN antenna and module (including the 5909 from the Microsoft-store which is the 'signature edition', meaning it comes without all the HP-bloatware)

 

- The WWAN module in all 59xx models is the same, which is the Huawei MU739 (launched in 2012)

 

 

 

Jumping to the Huawei MU739. A simple search reveals that this is a:

 

- quad-band 2G (GSM/EDGE/UMTS): 850/900/1800/1900 Mhz, and a

 

- penta-band 3G (WCDMA): 900/1900/2100/850/AWS (being the 1700/2100 up/down-combo) MHz

 

 

 

However, this is on the hardware side only. The software may very well enable or disable any bands. Since the three 58xx models are for different regions, while the 59xx models come with five different main boards for 5 different regions respectively, I do not know all the implications of these 8 different main boards, but:

 

- The Service Guide states that the 59xx-models have EITHER 2G-850/1900 -OR- 2G-900/1800, and EITHER 3G-850/1900 -OR- 3G-900/2100, HP may indeed have chosen to disable some bands through software, or by means of those different main boards.

 

- Note that AWS is missing from the list, while a poster from Canada on the RedFlags-forum took a Stream 8 from the US to Canada, popped-in a sim-card from Wind Mobile, and he said it worked on the AWS-band (not confirmed, though).

 

- The 5901 and 5909 work on T-Mobile-USA, so they will very likely support all the 3G-bands that T-mobile offers.

 

 

 

Long story short, make sure you buy a 59xx-model from your region/continent, and you 'should' be fine in that region. While traveling to other regions is not confirmed to be working (yet), software-hacks are likely to follow if needed, but please don't take my post as the absolute 'truth' (note words like 'may', 'likely', 'he said', etc.). I'm just an enthusiast trying to help. Cheers, and good luck! :catvery-happy:

 

 

 

Edited: 4G is actually 3G, but since it's at HSPA+ speeds (21mbps), sometimes also referred to as 3.5G (not LTE, however!)

 




 
 
 
 


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  # 1198159 15-Dec-2014 22:57
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P1n3apqlExpr3ss:
nathan: The US version has mobile broadband on 8"


And NZ stock does not have a 3G modem at all? Odd how those links and pbtech make mentions of a microsim slot; or is it just an error handed down from HP's specs?

edit: Thanks cokemonz for clearing it up


as far as I know, PB Tech are parallel importing this device, so technically its not NZ stock

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  # 1198254 16-Dec-2014 09:01
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nathan:
P1n3apqlExpr3ss:
nathan: The US version has mobile broadband on 8"


And NZ stock does not have a 3G modem at all? Odd how those links and pbtech make mentions of a microsim slot; or is it just an error handed down from HP's specs?

edit: Thanks cokemonz for clearing it up


as far as I know, PB Tech are parallel importing this device, so technically its not NZ stock


That is probably true. Same model as what's being released in Australia.
I own one, from PB. There is no 3G/4G.

Little update. 1GB ram may not be enough.
This thing pages to disk like crazy.
Metro ie with 5ish fat pages open and metro mail together, you can feel the lag.
I hope win 10 will have some memory improvements. Windows by itself seems to consume about 700mb

Still, $200, bad arse.

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  # 1198634 16-Dec-2014 20:28
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I just got my Microsoft Signature Edition one today. So far it's a pretty nice little machine - I actually really like the size in hand.

If anyone's wondering this is how it compares to a Tab Pro 8.4 & Nexus 7

Click to see full size

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  # 1198637 16-Dec-2014 20:34
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Cool, is it the HP Stream 8 model 5909 with SIM slot and GPS?



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  # 1199580 18-Dec-2014 00:03
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Just got a Stream 8 from JB tonight. I can confirm it it is the 5801TW model (no 3G) and comes with a 1 year iPass global pass. Nice device so far, happy to answer any questions

 
 
 
 


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  # 1199595 18-Dec-2014 01:57
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roobarb: Cool, is it the HP Stream 8 model 5909 with SIM slot and GPS?



the Windows device in the photo is HP Stream 7

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  # 1199627 18-Dec-2014 07:22
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P1n3apqlExpr3ss: Just got a Stream 8 from JB tonight. I can confirm it it is the 5801TW model (no 3G) and comes with a 1 year iPass global pass. Nice device so far, happy to answer any questions


How useful is iPass in New Zealand really?








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  # 1199826 18-Dec-2014 11:34
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freitasm:
P1n3apqlExpr3ss: Just got a Stream 8 from JB tonight. I can confirm it it is the 5801TW model (no 3G) and comes with a 1 year iPass global pass. Nice device so far, happy to answer any questions


How useful is iPass in New Zealand really?




http://hotspot-finder.ipass.com/new-zealand/auckland

Seems to include telecom and a fair few hotels. I'll probably never use it and would try to sell it if you didn't have to access email on the originating device to activate it

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  # 1200585 19-Dec-2014 14:23
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As a heads up, combo USB org Ang charging cables won't charge the stream.
I brought this http://www.banggood.com/4-In-1-Micro-USB-Power-Charging-Host-OTG-Hub-Adapter-Cable-p-947726.html
And the USB devices work fine, but it doesn't charge.

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  # 1201203 20-Dec-2014 19:06
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Anandtech review for the HP Stream 7 is out: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8760/hp-stream-7-review




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  # 1201260 20-Dec-2014 20:42
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CokemonZ: As a heads up, combo USB org Ang charging cables won't charge the stream.
I brought this http://www.banggood.com/4-In-1-Micro-USB-Power-Charging-Host-OTG-Hub-Adapter-Cable-p-947726.html
And the USB devices work fine, but it doesn't charge.


you want one of these

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OVDE0GC/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00OVDE0GC&linkCode=as2&tag=plugabltechno-20

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Does the 1GB RAM gets in the way of fluid UI and how good it is at playing videos in Flash and Silverlight.

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  # 1201476 21-Dec-2014 13:44
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mAYH3M: Does the 1GB RAM gets in the way of fluid UI and how good it is at playing videos in Flash and Silverlight.


Can't speak for Silverlight but Flash has been very responsive. Haven't had any flash fail to load or have issues playing (unfortunately includes the ads).

You don't really notice the lack of RAM unless its something intensive. For us our usage is mainly typical tablet with some native apps that run fine.

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