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  Reply # 2099216 1-Oct-2018 10:37
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I never found my XM2's to be as comfortable as the Bose.

 

 


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  Reply # 2099217 1-Oct-2018 10:38
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sbiddle:

 

I never found my XM2's to be as comfortable as the Bose.

 

 

 

 

I'd probably agree, I get sweatier with the Sony's, though I'd happily accept that to have gesture control which I totally love.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2099266 1-Oct-2018 11:28
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sbiddle:

 

I never found my XM2's to be as comfortable as the Bose.

 

 

 

 

I'd probably agree, I get sweatier with the Sony's, though I'd happily accept that to have gesture control which I totally love.

 

 

 

 

So the XM3's fit better and are more comfortable over longer periods, but still have the 'heat' issue where if you're on the warmer side then you might sweat a bit with the pads.

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  Reply # 2099268 1-Oct-2018 11:31
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networkn:

 

sbiddle:

 

I never found my XM2's to be as comfortable as the Bose.

 

 

 

 

I'd probably agree, I get sweatier with the Sony's, though I'd happily accept that to have gesture control which I totally love.

 

 

 

So the XM3's fit better and are more comfortable over longer periods, but still have the 'heat' issue where if you're on the warmer side then you might sweat a bit with the pads.

 

Hmm, that's a shame, I would have preferred them not to make my face sweaty. Life is like that though, and I'll still buy them.

 

 


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  Reply # 2099323 1-Oct-2018 13:13
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I found my ears were far sweatier with my QC15's - probably because they sealed a lot better than the Sony's

 

 


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  Reply # 2101593 4-Oct-2018 15:20
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Well I was sadly screwed out of my pre order for these, the expected ship date came and went and when I asked the company what was happening and their supplier provided a new ETA of next month.
Have had to cancel the order as they were needed in a few weeks.

 

Hoping to see if I can get Noel Leeming to price match themself from a few days ago .. 


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  Reply # 2101596 4-Oct-2018 15:25
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I think they did a recall based in what a bloke in the office was told when they tried to buy one. I think the call quality issues were the source of the recall. Does nobody test their products before release?

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  Reply # 2101605 4-Oct-2018 15:59
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landcruiserguy: I think they did a recall based in what a bloke in the office was told when they tried to buy one. I think the call quality issues were the source of the recall. Does nobody test their products before release?

 

 

I can't see an official recall taking place. There are some reports of units with faulty microphones for calling, but replacement units from the same batch have no issues.

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  Reply # 2101640 4-Oct-2018 17:01
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I missed out on the PB Tech pre-order so I got a pair from Noel Leemings, upgrading from the Bose QC35.

 

Was a bit of a bummer to find after getting them home that they just failed, just wouldn't charge. Power light went on for four minutes or so then would go off. Tried three chargers, same deal. Noel Leeming did the right thing and gave me a new set within 10 minutes of walking in the door the next day, so points to them there.

 

Second set has been great, lots of great features. One thing I'm missing from the QC35 is how seemlessly they switched between devices, was just a matter of pressing pause on the phone and play on the laptop and it worked straight away. The audio quality on the new Sonys has been much, much better, mainly playing music from a Note 5 so now have apt-x thank goodness, and looking forward to using higher quality options later.

 

 


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  Reply # 2101703 4-Oct-2018 19:25
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I missed out on the PB Tech pre-order so I got a pair from Noel Leemings, upgrading from the Bose QC35.

 

Was a bit of a bummer to find after getting them home that they just failed, just wouldn't charge. Power light went on for four minutes or so then would go off. Tried three chargers, same deal. Noel Leeming did the right thing and gave me a new set within 10 minutes of walking in the door the next day, so points to them there.

 

Second set has been great, lots of great features. One thing I'm missing from the QC35 is how seemlessly they switched between devices, was just a matter of pressing pause on the phone and play on the laptop and it worked straight away. The audio quality on the new Sonys has been much, much better, mainly playing music from a Note 5 so now have apt-x thank goodness, and looking forward to using higher quality options later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your review. As someone with QC35's it's good to hear what the differences are first hand from someone who isn't a tech reviewer being paid to do so. How's the battery life?


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  Reply # 2101747 4-Oct-2018 19:55
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I bought a pair of these headphones last week, and as far as I can tell the mic doesn't work... at all. frown

 

When paired with a Windows PC, Windows 10 doesn't show any volume on the headset mic when I'm talking or even if I clap or click my fingers. I can't seem to get it working with an Android phone, either, as apps always seem to use the built-in mic instead of the bluetooth one.

 

Can anyone else with a pair get the mic working with Windows 10 or have any suggestions on how I could test it with Android?





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... As someone with QC35's it's good to hear what the differences are first hand from someone who isn't a tech reviewer being paid to do so. How's the battery life?

 

 

Cool cool. Here's some more rants - 

 

Battery life so far has been fine, it's only been a couple of days so can't say too much about that at the moment. I think it might be reading 60% now but I leave them at work.

 

My work is a stupid echoey box with hard parallel surfaces, normally music playing on a sonos system and often a bunch of people talking and an extraction fan humming away too. It's no workshop or industrial level noise but it does get really frustrating and prevents me from concentrating, so getting the QC35s and now these Sonys has really improved my day-to-day work experience. Before that the best I had was earbuds with a pair of earmuffs over the top, which was very effective but not the most comfortable and pretty inconvenient.

 

In my opinion the noise cancellation on the Sonys is better. Far more options to customise it with the amount of ambient noise to let in, option to focus on voices, and the automatic detection of activity is really neat - yesterday it changed the noise cancellation profile to match sitting at my desk, walking, on a bus, then walking again without me doing anything. For example I was sitting on the bus and it was in full noise cancelling mode, took five or six steps off the bus and it had switched to walking mode before I went to cross the road.

 

The physical buttons on the Bose are more reliable than the touch controls on the Sonys, but the touch ones are really neat. The feature on the Sonys to put a palm against the right ear to lower music and hear full ambient noise is really useful for quick interruptions at work.

 

The comfort on the Bose is slightly better than the Sonys. My ears fitted in the Bose a little better and the foam stuff inside the earcups is nicer on the Bose, but overall I'm sure the Sonys will get worn in more and it'll probably balance out.

 

The audio quality is definitely more immersive on the Sonys with the higher bitrates. That more than makes up for the slight difference in comfort. There's this audio enhancement setting in the Sony app that might be helping.

 

The Bose app is far more mature, the Sony app has heaps more options but seems to be just a little clunky.

 

Google assistant integration is really neat. Reads out notifications and I can reply to facebook messenger messages etc.

 

Havent tried using it for phonecalls yet. The Bose worked quite well, with the talk about some issues there I should test it.

 

 


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  Reply # 2102069 5-Oct-2018 11:23
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I have to give props to Noel Leeming (Dunedin George St) - they had one pair of headphones in stock and they allowed me to price match their special that ended on Thursday.

 

I did end up paying $45 more than my original pre order, but at least I have them in hand now in time for my flight.

 

Hopefully the issues people have mentioned here do not show up on my copy


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  Reply # 2102074 5-Oct-2018 11:30
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Havent tried using it for phonecalls yet. The Bose worked quite well, with the talk about some issues there I should test it.

 

 

 

 

Sony still haven't added a sidetone so calling is a hit and miss affair and really depends if you're somebody who can talk without without one. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2102085 5-Oct-2018 11:58
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So my gf just knocked me over with a nicely wrapped present, shaped just like the box for a certain set of anc headphones....

 

 

I guess she got tired of watching me browse the headphones forums :P

 

 

I tested the call quality on facetime and aside from some very low buzz/background noise my voice seems clear enough for calls.

 

 

Pairing on W10 the xm3's show up as two devices, an audio headphones and a hands-free device. For using the microphone I had to switch default audio device to hands-free to get it to work.

 

 

Audio quality is good, a bit more bassy than I'm used to but very clear when ANC is enabled. With no music playing all external low frequencies are almost imperceptible. Higher frequencies aren't cancelled out as well and are a bit easier to hear, especially if they are close by. Can't really use it as an excuse to not hear the gf heh :)

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