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Topic # 245419 2-Feb-2019 16:09
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Just picked up a set at NL. Great price and couldn't resist.

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/audio/portable-audio/headphones/sennheiser-m3-ietw-momentum-true-wireless-in-ear-headphones/prod168390.html

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  Reply # 2171915 2-Feb-2019 16:28
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Reviews look a bit hit and miss.  Glad I got my Jabra Elite Sport ones on special when I did.  


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  Reply # 2171936 2-Feb-2019 18:17
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Is the sound on the stennies as good as they say? I will love a comparison between then and the jabra elite 65t from someone who owns both.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2171990 2-Feb-2019 19:45
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I'm also keen on hearing about these. I have Momentum in-ear wireless which are great, but the cord is too long (they could have made it a lot shorter) and each ear has a weighty battery pack/controller, so the true wireless appeal. I just wonder if I should wait for the next generation as these appear to have some first gen issues - eg, large physical size, limited battery, problematic touch controls


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  Reply # 2172015 2-Feb-2019 21:36
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Was looking at reviews of these the other day.

Like AirPods, if you have both in your ears and remove one, the music that you are playing goes on Pause.

If you put that one back in your ears it resumes play.

Unlike AirPods though, if you remove one and then remove the second and have both in your hand, they start playing music in the palm of your hand LOL

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  Reply # 2172020 2-Feb-2019 22:03
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With the Jabra's I like that I can remove one ear but keep playing in the remaining ear.  Makes it useful at work to listen to podcasts while still knowing what's going on around me.  


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  Reply # 2172030 2-Feb-2019 23:02
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You can use one with these and AirPods too.

The point was that if both are in and music is playing, the default behaviour is to pause as it assumes you took one out for a reason.

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  Reply # 2172117 3-Feb-2019 10:31
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Gotcha

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  Reply # 2172156 3-Feb-2019 12:21
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dafman:

 

I'm also keen on hearing about these. I have Momentum in-ear wireless which are great, but the cord is too long (they could have made it a lot shorter) and each ear has a weighty battery pack/controller, so the true wireless appeal. I just wonder if I should wait for the next generation as these appear to have some first gen issues - eg, large physical size, limited battery, problematic touch controls

 

 

I have a set of the Momentum TW. I previously used and still have the In Ear Free which has the smaller cord connecting the buds together. That sounded great but having the cord bounce around was still annoying.

 

In terms of physical form, I think you just have to be realistic. If you are looking for ones that are generally agreed to sound good -- Momentum TW, the Audio Technica ones (not yet available locally in NZ AFAIK), or the Master & Dynamics (likewise not locally available in NZ) - they are all reasonably large. Certain when compared to the Audio Technica offerings, the Sennheisers look 20 times better. And I am not sure anything can ever descend to the low of wearing buds shaped like electric toothbrush heads.

 

The touch controls are definitely rubbish but it's not an issue for me as I use my Apple Watch to control my music. To me, the real issues to note are as follows:

 

     

  1. Widely reported (and in my experience true) uneven discharge rate between the two earbuds.
  2. The case discharging as it trickle charges the earbuds if left alone for a few days.
  3. The firmware/hardware bug (seems hard to know which it is) that stops the earbuds from automatically connecting to a paired device and powering down if the case's power is at a low enough level that it is displaying red.

 

(1) and (2) don't bother me. I only use my earbuds a couple of hours a day max and I just charge up the case every two days or so. Almost all true wireless earbuds have battery compromises. To a large extent (3) is also viewed the same way by me but it's ridiculous that Sennheiser continues to not acknowledge this/allow this to escape testing. From my vantage point, if you want the best sound that you can get from a set of true wireless earbuds (and they do sound absolutely fantastic) and can't do without a true wireless solution and don't do very heavy listening, even with some of the known issues, these are still a great set to get.

 

 




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landcruiserguy: Is the sound on the stennies as good as they say? I will love a comparison between then and the jabra elite 65t from someone who owns both.

 

Update: I've returned the sennheisers today.  The sound on these were amazing - great range and as good as my wired in ear momentums, with great noise isolation.

 

But the dreaded bluetooth connectivity bug drove me insane!!

 

They would automatically reconnect to my Oneplus 6, but after a few hours in the charging case they seem to have "reset".  They would lose the pairing and worse still, my phone's attempt to reconnect was rejected by the buds. Essentially, I had to keep repairing them.  This is a fundamental issue for me on a $500 set of earphones. Maybe they'll fix it with subsequent firmware updates.

 

 

 

NL were great and swapped it for the jabra Elite active 65t (which were also on special for $284).  The sound quality is not as good as the sennis (its noticeable) but they are bass heavier (great for running and gym for me).

 

I'll test out voicecalls later.  But the senni's were a bit wierd in call as I could hear myself.  I see the jabras allow you to switch that off completely or adjust how much of your voice you could block out.  Also, the touch controls were a bit finicky on the sennis and I didnt like that you could only pair to one device at a time.

 

 

 

My verdict.  If sound quality and music is your highest priority, the sennis are better.  If you cant justify the extra $150, go with the jabras for a very decent sound quality and better firmware.  

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2172380 3-Feb-2019 18:46
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Thanks for the update. Surprised they let you exchange as they keep saying they won't for earphones.



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  Reply # 2172382 3-Feb-2019 18:50
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Lol I was very friendly and they seemed ok to do it. Plus I demo'd the problem. Guess they acknowledged it was an issue out the box.

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  Reply # 2172421 3-Feb-2019 20:13
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If the item is faulty they have to do something under the CGA although Noles can be hit or miss on warranty stuff in my experience.


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  Reply # 2172683 4-Feb-2019 12:11
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Interesting read. I'll stick with my Senn Momentum wireless in-ear for now and wait for Gen 2.


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