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  #1576405 19-Jun-2016 00:24
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I thought the ABs got away with many cyclical fouls. Wouldn't have changed the result, but the ref just waves them on.

 
 
 

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  #1576442 19-Jun-2016 08:16
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networkn:

 

 

 

Dagg had a pretty good game I thought, easily our best under the high ball. I've said it all along, our best 3 for my money would be Savea (when he plays well) Dagg and Ben Smith on the Wing. Daggs kicking is superior. That doesn't make BS a bad choice at FB obviously, but he contributes just as well on the wing. With Cruden most likely out, I'd expect that combo to play. Naholo isn't quite there for my money, his decision making isn't ideal under pressure I don't think.

 

 

You need to take those Dagg glasses off.

 

He missed almost all the high balls and duffed a punt at one stage that he normally would have carved off big metres with.  That's really the only strength he brings to the game, his long distance punting.

 

Other than that he had a reasonable game - nothing there see's him in the squad for me once Milner-Skudder is fit again.

 

The AB's tend to pick three reserve backs.  One has to be a halfback, one has to be Barrett to cover first five and fullback (and wing at a pinch), and they generally need a midfielder.  I don't think the coaches would have given up on Savea, and Milner-Skudder will be back.  Add Naholo to that, and play Ben Smith in his best position (fullback), it doesn't leave much room for Dagg in the long term.

 

Still too many mistakes by the AB's, and it was disappointing they let those two late tries in.  Tamanivalu is clearly still a work in progress and showed some patchy decision making.

 

 

 

 


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  #1576446 19-Jun-2016 08:29
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Haha dagg didn't catch or Even commit to a single high ball, he was pretty good on attack I guess, defense nope. Left the back wide open on a bunch of occasions. Hope to see bender back at 15



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  #1576448 19-Jun-2016 08:30
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Seta was also alot better then fekitoa though. I just don't see fekitoa as our starter there, bring moala in for a crack

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  #1576456 19-Jun-2016 08:44
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ludez: Haha dagg didn't catch or Even commit to a single high ball, he was pretty good on attack I guess, defense nope. Left the back wide open on a bunch of occasions. Hope to see bender back at 15

 

 

 

Err what game were you watching?


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  #1576467 19-Jun-2016 09:08
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The one last night where dagg didn't get a single high ball. What one did you watch?

Glad he got his 50th and now we can have savea back and Smith back in his best position. He's the best fullback in the world for a reason

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  #1576477 19-Jun-2016 09:34
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Kind of glad it's Australia being beaten up by the brutal English and not the ABs. I wish Charlie Ngatai would get over his headaches to get a run in the midfield but that seems unlikely. Can't rush head injuries.
The question in my mind, with the series in the bag, is it time to experiment a little, or stick with picking the form players only.

Glad Izzy got to 50 tests and scored a try to boot, but I think his real selection purpose was to light a fire under Savea's backside. Once Milner-Skudder is fit, I reckon Dagg will probably just need to carry his cellphone with him when he goes whitebaiting, and wait for his 'Beaver moment'. That was brought home to me when I saw Cory Jane in the commentary team, a great AB that has been left behind.

By the way @Joker97, what is a cyclical foul? Or is it the dreaded predictive text monster playing with your prose?




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  #1576480 19-Jun-2016 09:45
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Dingbatt: Kind of glad it's Australia being beaten up by the brutal English and not the ABs. I wish Charlie Ngatai would get over his headaches to get a run in the midfield but that seems unlikely. Can't rush head injuries.
The question in my mind, with the series in the bag, is it time to experiment a little, or stick with picking the form players only.

Glad Izzy got to 50 tests and scored a try to boot, but I think his real selection purpose was to light a fire under Savea's backside. Once Milner-Skudder is fit, I reckon Dagg will probably just need to carry his cellphone with him when he goes whitebaiting, and wait for his 'Beaver moment'. That was brought home to me when I saw Cory Jane in the commentary team, a great AB that has been left behind.

By the way @Joker97, what is a cyclical foul? Or is it the dreaded predictive text monster playing with your prose?

 

Oh, thats the you run circles around the opposition and get caught offside....


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  #1576481 19-Jun-2016 09:46
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I didn't watch the game, but the timeline shows the score even about half time? Wales tire again I assume?


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  #1576490 19-Jun-2016 09:57
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I can't really see the abs trying anything new, even though the midfield combo isn't working that well, especially on defense. But then you could argue they just need time. Will want to get it right for big tests

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  #1576520 19-Jun-2016 11:21
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Dagg was fine, good and bad things but overall was probably one of the better players tonight.  His kicking was good, lots of meters.  Support play was excellent and he was constantly busy.  A year or two back we had a discussion here about him standing too flat at fullback and not being able to rush cover.  This is exactly what happened again in that last try Wales scored - too flat and then he is easily beaten for pace. 


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  #1576550 19-Jun-2016 13:25
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Dagg was fine, good and bad things but overall was probably one of the better players tonight.  His kicking was good, lots of meters.  Support play was excellent and he was constantly busy.  A year or two back we had a discussion here about him standing too flat at fullback and not being able to rush cover.  This is exactly what happened again in that last try Wales scored - too flat and then he is easily beaten for pace. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I agree he was a little too flat, but burned for pace, I disagree, he is closing on that guy 2 more metres he has him.


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  #1576690 19-Jun-2016 18:58
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ludez: Seta was also alot better then fekitoa though. I just don't see fekitoa as our starter there, bring moala in for a crack

 

Heh he was pretty suspect on defense as well though. Two of his mistakes let in a fairly soft try.


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  #1576697 19-Jun-2016 19:12
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ludez: Seta was also alot better then fekitoa though. I just don't see fekitoa as our starter there, bring moala in for a crack


Heh he was pretty suspect on defense as well though. Two of his mistakes let in a fairly soft try.



Yep we are very weak on defense in the midfield, I just don't get why moala isn't in. He is such a solid defender hardly ever slips off tackles and always pushes out properly. To me now is the best time for trying out combos.

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  #1576698 19-Jun-2016 19:12
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networkn:

ludez: Seta was also alot better then fekitoa though. I just don't see fekitoa as our starter there, bring moala in for a crack


Heh he was pretty suspect on defense as well though. Two of his mistakes let in a fairly soft try.



Yep we are very weak on defense in the midfield, I just don't get why moala isn't in. He is such a solid defender hardly ever slips off tackles and always pushes out properly. To me now is the best time for trying out combos.

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