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  Reply # 1109740 17-Aug-2014 00:28
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Oh my god a 12 all draw! Fair result, yes. Happy, no.

ABs dominant in the first quarter. But in the second half it seemed like they kept infringing just to stay in the match.
Peyper set the tone for the match when he didn't yellow card Nic Whyte for kicking the ball away after a penalty was awarded. If you are gonna be pedantic you have to do it all the time.
Crockett's binning was a split second thing. I assume it was for offside at the ruck rather than not being back 10 because Beale ran at least that distance before he was tackled. As for Barrett's, I guess the ref was right there, but on at least two occasions the Wallabies played the ball from an offside position that prevented the ABs gaining possession and went unpunished.
Difficult conditions I know but some of the old war horses are beginning to look their age. Mealamu has been a great servant of the game for 114 tests but my heart sank a little when they dragged Coles, who had an outstanding game, and put Kev on. He immediately threw away an attacking lineout that within a minute meant the ball was back down the other end for the Wallabies to score from. And again at a vital time a throw so crooked he may as well have thrown it straight to the halfback.
McCaw and Kaino were strong, but how fragile do they both appear?

So frustrating. The counter is reset to one at Eden Park.

Being back Beaver! Yea..... Nah.




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  Reply # 1109750 17-Aug-2014 01:05
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I was going to say first draw against Aust since the late 80's. Then I looked it up - 2012.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1109751 17-Aug-2014 01:08
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I am actually pretty disappointed. Pyper had a cracker first half but a fairly average second half. Some of the penalties against the AB's were insane and they missed a wallabies forward pass, and about 4 clear penalties.

AB's defense was pretty outstanding I thought. J.S try saving tackle out wide was awesome.

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  Reply # 1109768 17-Aug-2014 06:23
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I agree with the age thing. Kevin is past his use by date, is there no one else or is he there for his presence and wisdom? Ted used him pretty much for explosive impact super sub.

But man Cruden was very average when the ground is wet! But having said that so were most of the others.

One thing the ABs have over everyone is instinct. Something which if the aussies had they would have won. Maybe.

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  Reply # 1109769 17-Aug-2014 06:27
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AB's defense was pretty outstanding I thought. J.S try saving tackle out wide was awesome.


I don't know. It looked that way but I think it was made to look like that from a complete lack of killer instinct by the Aussie back line. They didn't have the numbers so why keep passing wide.

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  Reply # 1109794 17-Aug-2014 09:40
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I would love to know how they decide that a player is in front at the kick off. Whose job is it to call it. The ref or his assistants? I concede it is easy for the viewer when the camera is lined up straight down the center line. Is it determined by where the advancing players grounded foot is at the moment the ball is kicked? It's funny (to me anyway) that after watching many games, that in the space of 5 hours I saw this offence finally get picked up twice (Waikato vs Wellington and NZ vs AUS). The speed of a test match must make it difficult to assess, but I would have thought the linesmen would be looking for it.
Other things that appeared a little 'sub-optimal' were the wallabies being pinged for interference in the line out when the players barely made contact, and Julian Savea bring penalized for crawling within half a second of being tackled in the air catching a high kick. The result instead of a lineout on the wallaby 22 there was one on the AB 22 instead.


I do believe McCaw is a marked man in the eyes of SA refs particularly. Hooper seemed to get pinged less for the same actions. Or maybe he's just a bit cleverer how he goes about it.




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  Reply # 1110454 18-Aug-2014 13:23
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OMG I had to LOLOL just now watching the Vent when someone suggested the appropriate name for Conrad Smiths newborn Son should be "Drew".

How awesome would that be!




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  Reply # 1114233 23-Aug-2014 22:16
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Wow, Just WOW WOW WOW! How MUCH talent do we have in NZ!? Sublime from the AB's!!!

WOOT! So happy. 

Couldn't pick a player for having a bad night (Messam probably would rather forget his three bumbles). 

So satisfying to see them record a record winning dismantling of the second best team in the world!

Beauden Barrett with the try saving tackle on a heavily strapped ankle will be something I will remember for a LONG time!

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  Reply # 1114271 23-Aug-2014 22:44
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Dry night, no wind, Eden Park and a side with a point to prove = record win.
Everyone played their hearts out. Two of Messam's fumbles were from passes that were behind him. But for a couple of other fumbles the score would have been even higher.
The commentators made a big thing of Jane's high tackle on Folau, but hardly a mention of Jane being cleaned out by a late tackle after his kick down the right touch line only about 90 seconds prior.
Brody Retallick had an awesome game. The forwards delivered big time, Smith linked, and Cruden ran things properly. And as for Savea, outstanding.




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  Reply # 1114276 23-Aug-2014 22:52
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Dingbatt: Dry night, no wind, Eden Park and a side with a point to prove = record win.
Everyone played their hearts out. Two of Messam's fumbles were from passes that were behind him. But for a couple of other fumbles the score would have been even higher.
The commentators made a big thing of Jane's high tackle on Folau, but hardly a mention of Jane being cleaned out by a late tackle after his kick down the right touch line only about 90 seconds prior.
Brody Retallick had an awesome game. The forwards delivered big time, Smith linked, and Cruden ran things properly. And as for Savea, outstanding.


It was high, but of little of no consequence to the game play I don't think, but it was missed. 

Brodie was just awe inspiring, Aaron Smith played out of his skin, and I all but guarantee tomorrow stats will show that no-one worked harder in defence than Richie McCaw (AGAIN!!!).

Hooper is very good as much as it pains me to say it, since for some reason he annoys the snot outta me.

Fekitoa isn't quite ready in my opinion for the AB's. He doesn't make good decisions for my money. I thought Crotty had a fantastic game.

I thought 1 from 3 of the passes Messam mucked up were marginal, the other two he himself didn't look happy about. 

Someone tonight said they read somewhere that Ritchie McCaw has played the most minutes of test Rugby than any other player in the world, in history.

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  Reply # 1114287 23-Aug-2014 23:11
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Hansen's ABs have taken the game to another level since the Ted era.

Ted built skill and attack. Steve put brutal efficiency.

The wallabies would have come close to any team in the world in the 90s early 2000s. But this is 2014 and the ABs have no weakness on dry pitches.

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  Reply # 1114289 23-Aug-2014 23:12
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Proof is ten minutes of 14 vs 15 and you think it was the wallabies with 14.



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  Reply # 1114291 23-Aug-2014 23:15
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joker97: Proof is ten minutes of 14 vs 15 and you think it was the wallabies with 14.


LOL Wasn't that the truth. I think McCaw was probably a little hard done by. 2 Cards in 129 games is almost unbelievable. 

If the man isn't the great rugby player in the world, I am not sure who would he would even share company with.

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  Reply # 1114387 24-Aug-2014 08:00
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His wild hand opened the door to the decision to be made

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  Reply # 1114390 24-Aug-2014 08:10
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I think the reason Hooper annoys is that he is very good at what he does. I do question the way he plants one foot legally behind the ruck then swings the other around the side so he is effectively attacking the ball from the side.
McCaw has admitted his yellow card offence was a reflex action and he knew what was coming as soon as he did it. There were other professional fouls that went unpunished though. The worst in my eyes was the Wallabies not retiring 10 then tackling Aaron Smith as he headed for the try line. A couple of times late in the game when Skelton deliberately lay on the wrong side of the ruck and prevented fast recycle of the ball with the ABs hot on attack.
When the ABs got their penalty try for a deliberate collapse, I think Nic Whyte forgot what team he was playing for because he ran around the back of the AB side as if he was their halfback and would surely have been penalized if not yellow carded for a professional foul had the collapse not happened. Not his first bit of unpunished offside play either.
Still an inconsistent performance by the ref, masked by an awesome performance by the ABs.

Maybe top level test rugby is just too fast for one ref to adjudicate?




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