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  #1887648 22-Oct-2017 08:25
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Yeah, right up to the end I kept hoping for that last minute miracle but not to be. 


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  #1887663 22-Oct-2017 09:38
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Good game, both sides were buggered by the 60th minute. Normally the ABs smoke everyone in the last 20, but they were out of gas themselves, which explains why the mistake by the Wallabies at the death, and why the ABs could not capitalise.





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  #1887664 22-Oct-2017 09:39
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I do feel that 10 and 15 were the difference in the end, we had good 10 and good 15 but not the world class ones we're used to have that made the magic. Basically Aaron Smith was running the show until he left. Scoreline would be worse if Foley got some of his kicks.

 

This is a largely B side of the ABs (inc sabbaticals) I wouldn't worry too much. 





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  #1887716 22-Oct-2017 11:40
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What was with the kicking possession away in the last 10 minutes!?  We are losing by 2 and Perenara just kept doing it...  The stuff ratings got very high ratings and defensively I guess you could say that but we lost possession repeatedly due to not committing to the breakdown.  I am all for not committing when it is their ball and winning it is unlikely, set the defensive line - but not protecting your own ball is madness.

 

The stupidity of some of those penalties was unbelievable!  Character building hopefully but we are right between two world cups now.


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  #1887728 22-Oct-2017 12:39
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Why the 9 is kicking things away? Because the 10 and 15 aren't doing their jobs.




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  #1887747 22-Oct-2017 13:52
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And why did Sonny Bill kick hoping for a miracle in the last five minutes when close to the try line... Should've just held on to the ball.




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  #1887759 22-Oct-2017 15:02
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they were buggered. some of them forgot the rules of the game in the last 10 minutes.





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  #1887785 22-Oct-2017 15:48
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The Herald has a theory - Jacinda Ardern is the cause of the AB's decline/slide/loss ... umm ... (yes I know it's an opinion piece but still ...!)





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  #1888482 24-Oct-2017 12:25
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I am concerned and have said so a few times this year, that the AB's fitness doesn't appear to be superior to those of our opponents. Where the last 20 minutes was our best time in a game previously, now we seem to be struggling to lift the pace at that time. 

 

Penalties and poor decisions are plaguing us, and whilst I do understand the trouble that having first choice players (and so many of them at that) out brings, I think the AB's need to get back to basics. Discipline has been talked about for at least 2 years, but it hasn't been so critical because the AB's have been so far ahead. I think that gap has closed, largely due to the AB's rather than the other teams. I want to see the replay where we were on their line and then 2 seconds later the ball was in the AB's 20m territory. I didn't see what happened, but seemed against the flow of play.


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  #1891642 28-Oct-2017 06:14
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Wellington vs Bay of Plenty - Championship Final. Wow, what a game of rugby! As a supporter of neither team I was able to sit back and just enjoy the spectacle.
If the supposed second tier of NZ provincial rugby can produce this, then no wonder the NZRU trophy cabinet is so full.




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  #1891645 28-Oct-2017 07:00
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There were enough Wellington players in the Bay team to keep me happy either way. Tiatia was the most impressive of them. Plus it was difficult not to enjoy the way both teams played.

 

Brad Shields was really impressive. I'd prefer that he stayed with the province but he looks like going to the UK.




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  #1891855 28-Oct-2017 13:47
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It really was an outstanding game, and I felt a little saddened by the fact that there was a 19 point gap at the end as I don't think that truly reflected the game and both teams efforts. A lot of guys out on their feet that last few minutes. 

 

There was one passage on defense where Wellington eventually scored that BOP really showed outstanding resolve. 

 

Savea looked dangerous, the only thing is he doesn't seem as "quick" as he once was. 

 

The BOP #10 is 35 and will play for the Crusaders next year. He played well most of the time with a few terrible moments. Not sure where he fits into the Crusaders set up though, given his age. 


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  #1891950 28-Oct-2017 19:41
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As a Naki supporter, for the final of the Mitre 10 Cup tonight, I'm going to follow the age old mantra of 'ABC' - Anyone But Canterbury.

 

Go the Makos!




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  #1892002 28-Oct-2017 21:54
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Really happy with that win. It was what I expected in the end, though Tasman really looked fantastic first 35 minutes. 35 Phases showed unbelievable skill and perseverance by the Red and Blacks though. Tasman deserves massive credit for their defense in that. Ultimately, they just smothered Tasman. RM was just amazing. Probably the form 10 in the country right now. It will be interesting to see how he goes at test level. I am happy some of those Canterbury backs will be joining the Crusaders. 


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  #1892047 29-Oct-2017 06:43
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networkn:Probably the form 10 in the country right now. It will be interesting to see how he goes at test level.


You mean the form 10 in the Mite 10 Cup? I'd agree with that but not the form 10 in the country.

I doubt you'll see Mounga play a test match in a hurry barring injury.

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