Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 | 314 | 315 | 316 | 317 | 318 | 319 | 320 | 321 | 322 | 323 | 324 | 325 | 326 | 327 | ... | 331


21299 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2331067 5-Oct-2019 16:51
Send private message quote this post

@tealeaf

 

I thought you might find this interesting reading: 

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12273845

 

 

 

The guy is an absolute machine/workhorse. You may not personally like him (he isn't my cup of tea), but I have the utmost respect for the mans work ethic, and I think he has become a better captain in the past 18 months as well. 

 

I suspect once Chieka is gone, he will be a little less whiney too. 

 

 


Mad Scientist
20909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2331180 5-Oct-2019 21:29
Send private message quote this post

Farrell was ducking the tackle in a video angle not shown on replay to the referee.

Not a red card.




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


 
 
 
 


2508 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 2331182 5-Oct-2019 21:43
Send private message quote this post

Handle9:

 

If anyone is interested in a nuanced conversation about high tackles and concussion I'd really recommend watching the House of Rugby episode this week. Skip through to around 33 minutes until 41 minutes. It's quite a considered position from a players perspective and well worth a watch.

 

 

The RFU did a trial late last year where they lowered the high tackle mark to the armpit. It significantly increased the risk of concussion. The point that Mike Tindall made on the house of rugby was that most concussions happen on the tackler when they tackle low and get a hip or a knee to the head.

 

I'm increasingly convinced that the reason this new interpretation has come in is to avoid litigation rather than being driven by player safety. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/news-comment/rfu-tackle-height-trial-armpit-nipple-line-ended-scrapped-concussion-risk-increase-a8745776.html

 

 


3343 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2331187 5-Oct-2019 22:05
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Batman: Farrell was ducking the tackle in a video angle not shown on replay to the referee.

Not a red card.

 

Im still in shock, are we going to ban tackles in rugby next? The guy tackled with an arm on a falling player who fell marginally on his shoulder. Thats a Red card? Id have been surprised if a yellow. Was just a penalty for an accident. Blame the Pom for falling into the tackle.

 

Man Union is soft as a wet paper towel, no wonder people struggle to take it seriously as a full contact sport.


3343 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2331188 5-Oct-2019 22:10
Send private message quote this post

networkn:

 

@tealeaf

 

The guy is an absolute machine/workhorse. You may not personally like him (he isn't my cup of tea), but I have the utmost respect for the mans work ethic, and I think he has become a better captain in the past 18 months as well. 

 

No argument. My point is hes a soft .... He may have great fitness and good luck with no injuries. But he is a whinger. Same as White. I find both of them are like Munster in the NRL for the Storm. Just gets up every play making out hes hard done by. stays down when hes hit by a tackle just in case the third ref finds something.

No argument hes had great stamina. I just wish he wouldnt whinge to the ref so much. Also hes the size of a half back, hes pretty small for his position, so I dont find he adds value in that regard. But they simply dont have anyone better


3343 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2331189 5-Oct-2019 22:21
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Eng carrying on like they 4-0 tries over the ABs, Arg did so well for a long time with only 14. But I can see Eng putting on some points via the edges now, but the way they are finishing the tries its like they think they have created a fair overlap.


2508 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 2331555 6-Oct-2019 20:25
Send private message quote this post

Generally I think Hansen will be happy with today. Namibia were really excellent and game us a nice tune up in the first half. It stops the squad from getting too far ahead of itself and believing the media nonsense. They clearly got an earful at half time and responded. Namibia was really physical which was great, it's just what our pack needed.

I think Tuungafasi will be fine but Laulala will have a very nervous 36 hours and will probably be cited. Under the framework there is clear mitigation for both tackles but given its the All Blacks they will probably be very cautious and cite at least Laulala.

The Tuungafasi card is so stupid - with the player falling if he pulls the arm back he gets a yellow for a shoulder charge, if he leaves the arm there he gets a yellow for contact with the head. The law is an ass but the interpretation was correct under the law.

 
 
 
 


882 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2331563 6-Oct-2019 21:10
Send private message quote this post

I’ve posted this on another site but it sums up my feelings re the cards:

Following the high tackle decision making framework, there are 3 incidents it looks at: shoulder charge, high tackle with contact by tacklers head/shoulder, high tackle with contact by tacklers arm.
If we look at this one it is a high tackle with contact made by the tacklers arm. You then ask if there was head/neck contact -> yes. What I think is missed in the ref’s decision is the next question which asks degree of danger - high = red, low = yellow.
From the decision of both yellows all I hear is the ref saying neck/head contact and the mitigation of the ball carrier being low so just a yellow. He may have in fact decided high degree of danger but just not verbalised it? But I think if the we are following the framework the refs should definitely explain each step on the defined framework, because not all neck/head contact is high danger, if you have a ball carrier low of the ruck at low speed I wouldn’t say there is high danger there vs a high speed winger hit by a high swinging arm.

I’m not disagreeing with the decisions as they are subjective and you could justify all three outcomes if you wanted to, this is just reinforcing there is a framework, and that maybe the refs aren’t following it correctly?

18094 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 2331565 6-Oct-2019 21:16
Send private message quote this post

Handle9: Generally I think Hansen will be happy with today. Namibia were really excellent and game us a nice tune up in the first half. It stops the squad from getting too far ahead of itself and believing the media nonsense. They clearly got an earful at half time and responded. Namibia was really physical which was great, it's just what our pack needed.

I think Tuungafasi will be fine but Laulala will have a very nervous 36 hours and will probably be cited. Under the framework there is clear mitigation for both tackles but given its the All Blacks they will probably be very cautious and cite at least Laulala.

The Tuungafasi card is so stupid - with the player falling if he pulls the arm back he gets a yellow for a shoulder charge, if he leaves the arm there he gets a yellow for contact with the head. The law is an ass but the interpretation was correct under the law.

 

There is no excuse for the undisputed rugby side to be embarrassed by a no name side in the first half, and first quarter. NAB did very well, credit to them, we are useless. What if this was the final, a lack lustre first quarter and first half , but this time its against ENG, RSA, WAL, IRE.  The game would be over the half. 


18094 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 2331567 6-Oct-2019 21:21
Send private message quote this post

Yes, I know this is an AB thread so dont diss them. But if you fans cant see that. We are good we are not great. In fact rugby is good and its not great, so the top tier sides are not anything to write home about. Anyone can win this as they are all solid and no more. 




21299 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2331579 6-Oct-2019 21:59
Send private message quote this post

I don't think I've ever seen Steve Hansen show as much positive emotion as when TJP scored that try! I still can't really understand how they didn't rule that pass behind the back as forward, it came out of the hands forward as far as I can see. Now it's been awarded, it's going to go down as the try of the tournament, certainly to date. 

 

Considering we played with 3 half backs, a winger/fullback at 10 in his first time in a test and had players out of position, I think Steve Hansen won't be unhappy with that end result. NAM had nothing to lose and threw everything they had at us, and we didn't leak a single try. It took 35 minutes to break them down, longer than Canada, who really weren't in the game from the first whistle. Discipline would be the big issue I think. I am inclined to agree with Stephen Donald about how are they supposed to tackle players going to ground. They must tackle them, or they get up off the ground and go again. 

 

 

 

Does anyone know what the final penalty count was? 12 sound right?

 

 


882 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2331587 6-Oct-2019 22:25
Send private message quote this post

8-7 penalties conceded in Namibia’s favour



21299 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2331588 6-Oct-2019 22:27
Send private message quote this post

JarrodM: 8-7 penalties conceded in Namibia’s favour

 

That is still an improvement over what has been occuring prior to the RWC. I do have a list of penalties somewhere, but by memory we were averaging around 9 or 10 a game

 

 


2508 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 2331590 6-Oct-2019 22:59
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

Yes, I know this is an AB thread so dont diss them. But if you fans cant see that. We are good we are not great. In fact rugby is good and its not great, so the top tier sides are not anything to write home about. Anyone can win this as they are all solid and no more. 

 

 

 

 

Okey dokey


2508 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 2331592 6-Oct-2019 23:03
Send private message quote this post

networkn:

 

JarrodM: 8-7 penalties conceded in Namibia’s favour

 

That is still an improvement over what has been occuring prior to the RWC. I do have a list of penalties somewhere, but by memory we were averaging around 9 or 10 a game

 

 

 

 

It felt like 5 of those were in the first half.


1 | ... | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 | 314 | 315 | 316 | 317 | 318 | 319 | 320 | 321 | 322 | 323 | 324 | 325 | 326 | 327 | ... | 331
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Microsoft New Zealand Partner Awards results
Posted 18-Oct-2019 10:18


Logitech introduces new Made for Google keyboard and mouse devices
Posted 16-Oct-2019 13:36


MATTR launches to accelerate decentralised identity
Posted 16-Oct-2019 10:28


Vodafone X-Squad powers up for customers
Posted 16-Oct-2019 08:15


D Link ANZ launches EXO Smart Mesh Wi Fi Routers with McAfee protection
Posted 15-Oct-2019 11:31


Major Japanese retailer partners with smart New Zealand technology IMAGR
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:29


Ola pioneers one-time passcode feature to fight rideshare fraud
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:24


Spark Sport new home of NZC matches from 2020
Posted 10-Oct-2019 09:59


Meet Nola, Noel Leeming's new digital employee
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:07


Registrations for Sprout Accelerator open for 2020 season
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:02


Teletrac Navman welcomes AI tech leader Jens Meggers as new President
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:41


Vodafone makes voice of 4G (VoLTE) official
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:36


2degrees Reaches Milestone of 100,000 Broadband Customers
Posted 1-Oct-2019 09:17


Nokia 1 Plus available in New Zealand from 2nd October
Posted 30-Sep-2019 17:46


Ola integrates Apple Pay as payment method in New Zealand
Posted 25-Sep-2019 09:51



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.