Handle9: Ellis is generally pretty average. Average pass, defence, running game, kicking game. He doesn't do anything noticeably well, or poorly. He certainly doesn't offer anything coming off the bench.
Dagg strikes me as the new Nonu - awful in super rugby, p*sses people off as it never looks like he's trying but steps up and delivers at the next level.
Disagree about Ellis (Except this season where he was decidedly average esp with his continuous box kicking!), but think Dagg will do well in International Stage if his injury gets better. He has had a pretty average couple of seasons, I'd agree, but do believe firmly it's related to injuries he has carried most if not all of that time.
Also worth noting my defence of him has NOTHING to do with the fact he is a Crusader!
One thing that has been surprising to me, is how well people talk about Malikai Fekitoa. I just don't get it, he IS good, I'll agree, but compared to our outgoing 13, Conrad Smith he is a FAR FAR distant second. I am actually surprised that selectors aren't more concerned about it. MF is a handful if he gets wound up, but he lacks the Rugby Brain and composure of CS to my mind. I think we are really going to miss that. I don't think CS gets the attention he deserves, because he goes about his work so quietly, but he is seriously lethal. It's an area I think Australia and SA potentially have an advantage. I think MF played a lot better last season than this one too.