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DKe

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  #979850 4-Feb-2014 02:45
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Don't know why you are making so much fuss over a sporting event in America which is also one of the biggest sporting event in the world. I prefer to watch NFL than football/soccer but I don't make a topic about the amount of coverage and headlines for football games that are happening in Europe and not in NZ. From the amount of response you have, it seems a good number of NZers like it.

You can also say as to why is it relevant to know that a foreign actor has died. Simple there are people out there that cares and that is why Hoffman's dead is currently one of the most read article in NZHerald. Why does Stuff have a top headline about Ian Thorpe being admitted to rehab?? Why should I care? Because its gossip to others. There are enough people out there that are interested from Miley Cyrus' twerking story to Knox trial. The two out of three links you provided are entertainment news. It would be nice to know what movies are coming up and check out their trailers. And who wouldn't want to know the latest gossip about Scarlett Johansson.

But we are talking about sports right? Well I asked myself why do tv news cover sports here in NZ when there are barely any people watching from the stands? Why should we care who won when a lot people doesn't even bother to come to the game. I agree that people from America here are fewer in number, but that doesn't mean they are the only group that watch the Super Bowl. Since we are expressing our opinion, I can't imagine European football to be a better quality than NFL when it has no video replay and players being divers and drama queens, but I still going to watch the World Cup.

If you get to know the rules and play the game, hopefully you will understand. :)

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  #979861 4-Feb-2014 07:13
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Technofreak:
wakaridnnz: After the game I thought it was a bit of a stretch when the Fox reporter asked one of the players what it felt like to be a world champion.


Well, since it's pretty well not played anywhere else one could forgiven for making the bold statement of being a world champion.

I do have to agree with you though.


It is played in many countries

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  #979866 4-Feb-2014 07:26
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I love the NFL and the Superbowl.

As a long time Colts fan it was a shame to see Manning and the Broncos get blown out.



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  #979881 4-Feb-2014 08:11
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Watched it last night, great game all being one sided. It's like a game a chess with human pieces.
What I don't understand or like is how in NZ the media gives coverage to the EPL, who could give a crap about football results every single night !!!!!!

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  #979885 4-Feb-2014 08:27
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Technofreak:
johnr: Super what?


Yep, that sums it up for vast majority here in NZ.  


Do you have links to the source research for this metric?

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  #979887 4-Feb-2014 08:35
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k1wi: 

Watched the game after work, without the USA ads it's better with fast forward.



How long does the game last after you take out all the stoppages?


The game lasts for one hour without what you call, "the stoppages". Four quarters of 15 minutes each.

American football is the ONLY sport I watch on TV. I'm a NZer, but lived for five years in the US and grew to understand and love the sport.

David.

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  #979888 4-Feb-2014 08:38
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DrCheese:
Technofreak:
k1wi: 

Watched the game after work, without the USA ads it's better with fast forward.



How long does the game last after you take out all the stoppages?


The game lasts for one hour without what you call, "the stoppages". Four quarters of 15 minutes each.

American football is the ONLY sport I watch on TV. I'm a NZer, but lived for five years in the US and grew to understand and love the sport.

David.


The game lasts an hour, but the ball is in play for only 12-13 minutes. Each play lasts an average of 6 seconds before the ball goes dead. The time it takes to play a game, with all the ad breaks etc, is about 3 hours.

So you get 12 mins of action in 3 hours. No wonder people get bored by it.



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  #979890 4-Feb-2014 08:46
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I have found it a surprisingly easy game to learn - 11 players (7 linesman and 4 backs) and the rules are kind of like rugby league. Thought the game yesterday was a bit one-sided - would have been more interesting if it went down to the wire as in some of the playoff games.





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  #979891 4-Feb-2014 08:48
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NonprayingMantis:
DrCheese:
Technofreak:
k1wi: 

Watched the game after work, without the USA ads it's better with fast forward.



How long does the game last after you take out all the stoppages?


The game lasts for one hour without what you call, "the stoppages". Four quarters of 15 minutes each.

American football is the ONLY sport I watch on TV. I'm a NZer, but lived for five years in the US and grew to understand and love the sport.

David.


The game lasts an hour, but the ball is in play for only 12-13 minutes. Each play lasts an average of 6 seconds before the ball goes dead. The time it takes to play a game, with all the ad breaks etc, is about 3 hours.

So you get 12 mins of action in 3 hours. No wonder people get bored by it.


It's the thinking man's football. Not sure why the periods of non-play are a problem.

I guess most folks prefer mayhem where rugby players run around with the ball and hope for the best.

Cheers,

David.

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  #979898 4-Feb-2014 09:06
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And, with all the stoppages, there is plenty of time to grab another cold one and drop the last one off...

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  #979899 4-Feb-2014 09:07
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I watched the game in slightly over an hour - that's fast forwarding through the ad breaks and through most play clocks down to about 6 seconds before the snap. You 'save' some time when the clock's running between plays, but 'lose' about as much when the clocks stopped during plays (i.e. incomplete's).

I think American Football is similar in many respects to Baseball. I agree, if you count the actual ball in play time it is quite short, particularly when the game lasts 4 hours, has an hour of play, and 13 minutes of 'contact' time... Having said that, even rugby union has a pretty decent amount of stoppage time - each scrum, while not as frequent as each play, seems to take an age to set. Cricket too is a lot of idle time with short periods of 'action'.

But I find American football, like Baseball, is much more calculated, much more of a mind game than most other sports. It thrives on suspense. It's trying to predict what the other team is going to do and then reacting.

The argument about the half time show being more important than the game itself comes down to perception - in the US Superbowl Sunday is about groups of people/families coming together for the afternoon, the combination of sport, ads and half time show are all about appealing to not just those there for the game, but the rest of the population too.

But, that's diverging from the topic at hand - the Superbowl gets coverage for a couple of days of the year. For one of the world's most watched events, that's hardly an excessive amount.

P.S I agree 'world champs' is a bit of a misnomer, but as with baseball, it is derived from the fact that the championship game/s are between the two conferences/leagues. Like when Super league was a potential rival to the NRL .

MLB - winner of the American League vs. winner of the National League
NFL - winner of the American Football Conference vs. winner of the National Football Conference

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The game lasts an hour, but the ball is in play for only 12-13 minutes. Each play lasts an average of 6 seconds before the ball goes dead. The time it takes to play a game, with all the ad breaks etc, is about 3 hours.

So you get 12 mins of action in 3 hours. No wonder people get bored by it.


Cricket lasts 5 days and often ends in a draw.

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  #979906 4-Feb-2014 09:20

Poor old Peyton Manning (poor! he's on $17.5mil) sure is copping it on imgur.

Peyton Manning tried to throw in the towel but it got intercepted!

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  #979908 4-Feb-2014 09:21
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joker97:
i love superbowl. cups are boring.


"Superbowl" is the latest addition to the McDonald's breakfast menu ... it's a massive bowl of high-sugar cereal. ;-)

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  #979914 4-Feb-2014 09:36
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DKe: Don't know why you are making so much fuss over a sporting event in America which is also one of the biggest sporting event in the world. I prefer to watch NFL than football/soccer but I don't make a topic about the amount of coverage and headlines for football games that are happening in Europe and not in NZ. From the amount of response you have, it seems a good number of NZers like it.

You can also say as to why is it relevant to know that a foreign actor has died. Simple there are people out there that cares and that is why Hoffman's dead is currently one of the most read article in NZHerald. Why does Stuff have a top headline about Ian Thorpe being admitted to rehab?? Why should I care? Because its gossip to others. There are enough people out there that are interested from Miley Cyrus' twerking story to Knox trial. The two out of three links you provided are entertainment news. It would be nice to know what movies are coming up and check out their trailers. And who wouldn't want to know the latest gossip about Scarlett Johansson.

But we are talking about sports right? Well I asked myself why do tv news cover sports here in NZ when there are barely any people watching from the stands? Why should we care who won when a lot people doesn't even bother to come to the game. I agree that people from America here are fewer in number, but that doesn't mean they are the only group that watch the Super Bowl. Since we are expressing our opinion, I can't imagine European football to be a better quality than NFL when it has no video replay and players being divers and drama queens, but I still going to watch the World Cup.

If you get to know the rules and play the game, hopefully you will understand. :)


DKe

I think you missed my point entirely. My point was the Superbowl was getting a level of coverage that we don't give to many of our own national teams.  I have no problem with it getting coverage but by the number of articles on the NZHerald site over the last day or two one could be lead to believe the Superbowl was a major event for New Zealanders.  You can't tell me it is.

You ask why is it relevant to have articles on Hoffman and Thorpe.  Hoffman is an actor that many kiwis will have seen and know of, Thorpe is an Australian who has competed against New Zealanders at the Commonwealth and Olympic games and other world swimming events.

I couldn't care less about what Scarlett Johansson is up to

I agree to some extent re your comment about attendance figures here, but you need to put that into perspective. While the minor games might have lower attendances the major games are always a sellout. We don't have the population of the likes of Europe and the US to be always able to fill our stands.

I think you also misunderstood my comment about European Football being top quality Football.  I was referring to Football (aka Soccer) not Rugby Football, Rugby League Football, Aussie Rules Football nor American Football. There is only one Football all the others have another descriptor after the word football. I was comparing the standard in Europe to other parts of the world so far as Football was concerned.

When it comes to American Football I would say the NFL is the best.

Yes there might be divers and drama queens in Football, that happens elsewhere as well, but at least in Football you get play for most of the 90  minutes and it doesn't take 4 hours to get the game played.




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