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# 980115 4-Feb-2014 14:16

It is the final, it gets a lot of coverage. It is the best quality of the sport you can get. The sports you complain about not getting coverage in NZ are normally sports played in other countries and the quality of NZ play is second rate. The ASB football premiership would be a classic example.

After the UEFA champions league final it is the second most watched sports final in the world.

Superbowl and NFL is huge. The NFL makes twice as much money as the EPL.

There are a lot of NFL fans in NZ and in the UK they are now the 7th most watched sport and based on growth could get to no 4 or 5.

In the US 34 of the top 35 watched programmes were NFL games.

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# 980134 4-Feb-2014 14:39

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KiwiNZ:

The Football played with the oddly shaped round ball can go, and very often, for 90 minutes with zero scoring.

American Football is played for 60 minutes, 30 each way.

Your point is?

With Football there doesn't have to be any scoring for the game to be entertaining and exciting to watch.

My point was there is 60 minutes play time which was in response to your post stating "game lasts more than three hours, only 6 percent of the total—eleven minutes—is actually spent playing with the ball and attempting to move it forward"

I concede it is entertaining watching someone that was not even touched writhing around on the ground in agony get up and run off with a huge smile when they have milked a penalty for no infringement

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# 980233 4-Feb-2014 17:54

While it was nice to know who won, I honestly don't have an interest in it.

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# 980256 4-Feb-2014 19:02

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wakaridnnz: The Super Bowl is now up on the NFL Game Play app and the condensed version of the game is 43m 32s

Hey thanks, I might sit down and watch this later.

Even better watching it on NFL Game Pass

http://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/console.jsp

where you can watch in HD and choose to watch either the full version with ads or only the plays.

As somebody who lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for 6 years I became quite a 49'ers fan but lost interest in this year's Superbowl when the Niners lost to Seattle.

Whether you like the game or not, the TV coverage is always top notch and many of the innovations from sports broadcasting come from NFL broadcasts.

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# 980439 5-Feb-2014 02:22

Having not much better to do on Monday afternoon, I sat down to watch it live on ESPN. I had never really watched NFL before and tried to figure out how it worked just by watching. This was frustrating and I just didn't get it. Towards the end of the first quarter I googled for the rules and found a brief outline in the intro to the Wikipedia page on American Football.

This was a revelation - the main rules and objectives are very simple and once I saw those, I really enjoyed the game and it would have been better if it hadn't been one-sided, as commented by others here. Ended up watching the whole thing although at one point in the first quarter I had to pause it for about an hour, so when I resumed, I was able to FF through ads and some stoppages. Might have been a bit of a drag if I had not been able to do that.

I don't pretend to understand the finer points of play moves, tactics and strategy of the game but enjoyed it at a simple level nonetheless.

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# 980452 5-Feb-2014 07:15

The part of the rules that made it interesting for me once I learned the player positions was to learn the rules around tackling. Once I understood that I found I could see what was happening almost as fast as the commentators all though I still miss quite a bit.

Once thing I do like about the commentating though, is where they recap what has just happened and show things by drawing little lines and arrows. They then explain an alternative as to what the players could have done.

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# 980471 5-Feb-2014 07:53

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Technofreak:
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NonprayingMantis: The game lasts an hour, but the ball is in play for only 12-13 minutes. Each play lasts an average of 6 seconds before the ball goes dead. The time it takes to play a game, with all the ad breaks etc, is about 3 hours.

So you get 12 mins of action in 3 hours. No wonder people get bored by it.

Um, no. In a three-hour game, there is one hour of action, not 12-13 minutes. The clock always runs when the ball is in play.

David.

I've never watched a game of American Football, but I expect the writer of the article in Forbes a couple of years as referenced in a link in an earlier post has watched the game a few times. This is what he said;

the typical NFL game lasts more than three hours, only 6 percent of the total—eleven minutes—is actually spent playing with the ball and attempting to move it forward. The other 94 percent of the time is spent sitting, standing around, and talking about playing rather than actually playing.

The 12 minutes of action comment from NonprayingMantis sounds about right. True the metrics from a game of Rugby can be pretty bad too (not as bad a 6%) but you don't need to sit down for 4 hours to watch the game.

Whoever wrote that is writing utter rubbish. There is one hour where the ball is in play. The clock stops when the ball is not in play, with a few exceptions.

Very few games last four hours, by the way.

David.

Sorry but you're not quite right here.

The clock stops when there is an incomplete pass, a ball carrier steps out of bounds, at a change of possession, a penalty an injury, or time out.

When a ball carrier is tackled in bounds, which happens a more often than not the clock runs. That's how you get a 10 play 7 1/2 minute drive - if the clock stopped after every play a 10 play drive would only last about a minute.

11 minutes is enough to run 110 plays (at an average of 6 seconds per play which is the generally accepted amount of time for a play). The super bowl had 111 plays so that seems about right.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=340202007

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# 980476 5-Feb-2014 08:06

eracode: Having not much better to do on Monday afternoon, I sat down to watch it live on ESPN. I had never really watched NFL before and tried to figure out how it worked just by watching. This was frustrating and I just didn't get it. Towards the end of the first quarter I googled for the rules and found a brief outline in the intro to the Wikipedia page on American Football.

This was a revelation - the main rules and objectives are very simple and once I saw those, I really enjoyed the game and it would have been better if it hadn't been one-sided, as commented by others here. Ended up watching the whole thing although at one point in the first quarter I had to pause it for about an hour, so when I resumed, I was able to FF through ads and some stoppages. Might have been a bit of a drag if I had not been able to do that.

I don't pretend to understand the finer points of play moves, tactics and strategy of the game but enjoyed it at a simple level nonetheless.

I did the same thing a couple of years ago. Interesting that American Football was actually Rugby until about 1895 ~ 1905 when some of the existing rules came in to speed up the game.

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# 980480 5-Feb-2014 08:09

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I think the point has been proven - after 6 pages of debate, there's plenty of people in NZ wgo care enough for it to be broadcast...
That's not to say it's a global game, or a good one, for that matter - that's an entirely different set of debates.

All in all, 6 pages ina day or two is pretty good going for a fringe sport on a geek-site.

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Handsomedan: I think the point has been proven - after 6 pages of debate, there's plenty of people in NZ wgo care enough for it to be broadcast...
That's not to say it's a global game, or a good one, for that matter - that's an entirely different set of debates.

All in all, 6 pages ina day or two is pretty good going for a fringe sport on a geek-site.

85 posts from about 35 of over 70,000 Geekzoners. Over 60% of those posts came from 8 people, I'm not sure if a point has been proven or not.

Either way it has been an interesting discussion.

I've come to the conclusion that the level of coverage probably reflects the level of media content provided by overseas providers and laziness of the local online media outlets in New Zealand who are in the habit of just republishing stuff, rather than finding their own stories.

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# 1483574 2-Feb-2016 14:17

I see Super Bowl 50 is on TV1 but my TiVo EPG says nothing about HD.. Hope they're not planing to show it in SD..

Anyone know??

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# 1483577 2-Feb-2016 14:22

I suspect if it's on the NFL popup channel it will be in SD. if it's on TV1 then maybe HD. But since it's on Waitangi Day maybe TVNZ will show Waitangi Day celebrations instead.

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# 1483578 2-Feb-2016 14:24

old3eyes:

I see Super Bowl 50 is on TV1 but my TiVo EPG says nothing about HD.. Hope they're not planing to show it in SD..

Anyone know??

TV1 or the TVNZ popup channel? The previous games have been on the popup (also streamed on tvnz on demand).

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# 1483582 2-Feb-2016 14:40

It'll be on both 1 and Pop-Up.

source: "Exclusive to TV ONE, The Pop-Up Channel and live-streaming on TVNZ OnDemand - no matter where you are you won't miss out on the action!"

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# 1483631 2-Feb-2016 15:11

There are lots of sports I enjoy and lots more I don't much care for. I quite like American football. The very first time I went to the US I arrived on Super Bowl Sunday and enjoyed a free lunch put on by my hotel, with the game on a big screen. I made friends with a guy who had played college football and explained the rules and tactics (and statistics that seem an important part of many American sports). On the other hand, I've never been into rugby league or basketball. So I'm much more interested in the Super Bowl than, say, a Warriors or Breakers game, but I accept that many (most?) people in New Zealand probably don't agree.

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