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  Reply # 1585352 3-Jul-2016 23:19
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The resonance factor of the extra curbs is pretty interesting.

And the red bull team Lederhosen uniforms.


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  Reply # 1585364 4-Jul-2016 02:02
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Another rush of blood????


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  Reply # 1585397 4-Jul-2016 08:24
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At least the others have caught up enough to be able to punish them if they make a mistake.
Turned out to be a fun final few laps, but could easily have been the generic romilton show 1 2 again.

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  Reply # 1585413 4-Jul-2016 09:14
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Interesting to see how Hamilton nursed the ultras for far longer than most expected, looked an obvious driving behaviour change to make that work as he didn't streak ahead like you would have expected.... And it looks like Ferrari screwed up Vettel by keeping him out so late..

 

 


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  Reply # 1585416 4-Jul-2016 09:23
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No one expected the tire explosion though.  Performance should degrade by that stage, not the entire thing.


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  Reply # 1585421 4-Jul-2016 09:30
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No, but we have seen it previous that pushing the tyres too far opens them open to explosive failure; There appeared to be no other matters from the track that caused it given other cars (NR) where following quite close.


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  Reply # 1585584 4-Jul-2016 13:34
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Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!


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  Reply # 1585591 4-Jul-2016 13:41
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Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!

 

 

I suspect given that the stewards found him guilty of contravening the 'give racers space' rules (it does have a proper name and definition and article in the FIA rules, I just don't know what it is!) that blocking is not allowed in this instance.

 

I'd really love it if the stewards (and the FIA) from now on penalised pretty much all forms of poor racing such as this, including forcing people of the track, although I don't know how it would work at the start of races such as when LH often squeezes NR off the track... He often claims cold tyres, under steer as a result but that is just a convenience for getting a poor start from pole or the 2nd place qualifier being on the better side of the track (some tracks are better to start in 2nd place than on pole)... Since they generally ignore all transgressions during lap 1 I suspect he would still get away with it unless it was obvious such as today.

 

It is however great to see that Ferrari and Red Bull are much closer this year. 


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Talking about Ferrari ... well I don't know what to say. WHen the car works, the tacticians go to sleep. When the tacticians are ok, the car explodes. 


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  Reply # 1585602 4-Jul-2016 13:54
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No one expected the tire explosion though.  Performance should degrade by that stage, not the entire thing.

 

 

IIRC, the tyre that explodes is always the supersoft. Last year and the year before, maybe even the year before that. 

 

Soon we will see the ultrasoft exploding.


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Pirelli don't indicate expected tyre life but Ferrari should have considered the kerbs plus super softs might cause trouble?  We saw LHs ultrasoft on Saturday looking buggered so 30 odd laps plus qualifying on the super is quite a lot.  The problem I guess is knowing if it was a surface failure due to wear or a carcass failure due to other factors not caused by direct wear from the track?




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Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!

 

 

Watch the race. I assume you have it recorded? You will see that Rosberg had damaged aero, the barge board was flapping around, plus debris at the back of the fort wing and the front of the floor. So his tyres grained. Hows that getting the better of him. Things happen, but if Rosberg hadn't had those issues, Hamilton wouldn't have got past

 

Heh, but I did enjoy his attitude after the contact, "I was on the outside" The tone not the words, funny. 




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Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!

 

 

Rosberg turned in, the car didn't. His fault, but no more than a racing incident. 


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joker97:

 

Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!

 

 

Watch the race. I assume you have it recorded? You will see that Rosberg had damaged aero, the barge board was flapping around, plus debris at the back of the fort wing and the front of the floor. So his tyres grained. Hows that getting the better of him. Things happen, but if Rosberg hadn't had those issues, Hamilton wouldn't have got past

 

Heh, but I did enjoy his attitude after the contact, "I was on the outside" The tone not the words, funny. 

 

 

It doesn't matter what damage he had or didn't have. The end of the story is Hamilton P1 Rosberg P4, when the starting the final lap it was Hamilton P2 Rosberg P1. So Hamilton got the better of him. Yes I watched the race this time! (on Replay of course) ... 


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joker97:

 

Hamilton seems to always get the better of Rosberg. Reminds me of Jimmy Spithill and Dean Barker. Unfortunately for Nico he lost a few points. May or may not be important at the end. I don't see Hamilton being at fault this time ... do the rules say specifically whether you can block by not allowing someone to turn in? Essentially Nico tried to run Hamilton off the track by not allowing him to turn ... don't recall seeing that before! Nico is trying very hard!

 

Anyway - I don't understand how Max can do a 1 stop and Merc did a what 3 or 4 stop?!

 

 

Rosberg turned in, the car didn't. His fault, but no more than a racing incident. 

 

 

Umm I don't think he turned. He went straight on across the path of where Hamilton would have (and did forcefully) turn. "Apparently" he had brake problems. Either way, he's getting craftier ... hopefully soon he can get the upper hand ... 


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