Formula One is so boring

Zippity:

 

Formula One is so boring

 

On one hand - I'd suggest that you watch something else then..

...on the other hand - what race did you just watch?

I'm sure that Kevin Magnussen found it pretty exciting!  (Thank goodness that he walked away from that!)

I'm also reasonably certain that Kimi Raikkonen's pulse was racing (and blood was boiling) and numerous points throughout the race

Felipe Massa (despite falling off the pace) had some incredibly exciting battles throughout

Max V gave us numerous kamakazi moments

And Daniel Ricciardo managed to convince the podium interviewer to do a shooey!    #epic

Spa is such an exciting track!

And most surprisingly, it didn't rain!  I've not known spa do that for a while!

benokobi: Craziest start to a race I've seen recently.

Max is crazy. All testosterone and no brains. Its a weekly thing now it seems. When you see other drivers defending and fighting its even more obvious.  

6FIEND:

 

Zippity:

 

Formula One is so boring

 

 

 

 

On one hand - I'd suggest that you watch something else then..

 

 

 

...on the other hand - what race did you just watch?

 

 

 

I'm sure that Kevin Magnussen found it pretty exciting!  (Thank goodness that he walked away from that!)

 

I'm also reasonably certain that Kimi Raikkonen's pulse was racing (and blood was boiling) and numerous points throughout the race

 

Felipe Massa (despite falling off the pace) had some incredibly exciting battles throughout

 

Max V gave us numerous kamakazi moments

 

And Daniel Ricciardo managed to convince the podium interviewer to do a shooey!    #epic

 

 

 

Spa is such an exciting track!

 

Agree, was a good race, although as usual at Spa, the results came out of a hat for many, due to Spa.

I feel the drive of the race was Alonso. Like others he benefitted hugely from the early lap incidents, but for a car thats down on power, he held his place a lot longer than expected.

Benoire:

 

You get a 10 place penalty for the first change, and then I think it is a subsequent 5 place drop for each component after the first.  Alonso and Button this year have been constantly replacing engines, last season was even worse!  Rosberg won't yet as he still has one penalty free engine that can have tokens applied, if he took free ones now, not only would he drop back but the amount of 'engines' unlocked would be the same spec as Hamilton's rather than a free upgraded engine later; Hamilton has no choice but rosberg is better off waiting before utilising the free engine with the upgrades.

 

4 engines would be too hard, after FP3 the cars in are in Parc Ferme and cannot be worked on so a 4th engine could not be fitted and still hit qualifying; I'd imagine the stewards would take a dim view of missing out on qualifying to install a new engine and then you still need to run it and test it which would be difficult in Qualifying.

 

I find this engine penalty more than bizarre, its crazy.

The purpose of engine penalties is to reduce cost. So the cars need to make engines and associated parts last. Then we had the penalties that overlapped from race to race. Now we have penalty free engines??? The rule is basically saying, if you rack up 25 grid place penalties, grab a bunch of other parts as they are all free. Its getting artificial. And why bother to make the mechanics change engine after engine if the loophole allows the rule too be abused.Poor damn mechanics working all these hours jus to satisfy a rule, when there is no need. What if Williams were really competing at the heels of the big guys, this artificial engine penalty fiasco is only for the big boys who have big boys deep pockets, and thus the initial reason for the rule has not worked.    

Jaxson: The highlights package just skipped the entire 2nd half of the race and the order hardly changed.

Vettel cutting in at the start looked pretty dodgy to me.

Max V looks like one of those drivers that requires others to avoid an accident to look good.

You got that right. The top drivers on the grid could all do that. There were quite a few close incidents, also that had contact, but they all got through it providing us good viewing. 

Turn 1 was Max, that took away other great racing. But I notice that when he gets in one of these dodgy incidents of his, he shows great reaction time. In that he's on the blower immediately, he hit me, etc.  Karma will come around

tdgeek:

benokobi: Craziest start to a race I've seen recently.

Max is crazy. All testosterone and no brains. Its a weekly thing now it seems. When you see other drivers defending and fighting its even more obvious.  

benokobi:

tdgeek:

 

benokobi: Craziest start to a race I've seen recently.

 

 

 

Max is crazy. All testosterone and no brains. Its a weekly thing now it seems. When you see other drivers defending and fighting its even more obvious.  

 

Rosbergs penalty at Hockenheim is starting to look even more ridiculous with Max physically forcing people off the track repeatedly. Damaging cars at the beginning and his attacks at the chicane were becoming common place.

Yep. I don't mind if a driver makes a mistake. Brakes too late, took a chance that perhaps was already marginal, but for Max that is the norm. Grosjean had many issues when he broke into F1, but it was his inexperience, misjudgement that gave hm a reputation. Not being over aggressive all the time as he thinks he owns the track. You can see this in the commentary. And as well as spoiling other drivers races he is also spoiling his own. 

tdgeek:

 

You got that right. The top drivers on the grid could all do that. There were quite a few close incidents, also that had contact, but they all got through it providing us good viewing. 

 

Turn 1 was Max, that took away other great racing. But I notice that when he gets in one of these dodgy incidents of his, he shows great reaction time. In that he's on the blower immediately, he hit me, etc.  Karma will come around

 

I disagree, the coming together at La Source with Raikkonen and Verstappen on lap 1 was a racing incident caused by Vettel not giving enough space at the start and turning in too much.  If you look at the replays, Vettel turned in on Raikkonen who, then had no where to go with max at the inside.. Sure, Max could have waited but really there was space on the inside, Raikkonen had left enough room before Vettel turned in because he was running himself to the outside of the track.

Benoire:

 

tdgeek:

 

You got that right. The top drivers on the grid could all do that. There were quite a few close incidents, also that had contact, but they all got through it providing us good viewing. 

 

Turn 1 was Max, that took away other great racing. But I notice that when he gets in one of these dodgy incidents of his, he shows great reaction time. In that he's on the blower immediately, he hit me, etc.  Karma will come around

 

 

I disagree, the coming together at La Source with Raikkonen and Verstappen on lap 1 was a racing incident caused by Vettel not giving enough space at the start and turning in too much.  If you look at the replays, Vettel turned in on Raikkonen who, then had no where to go with max at the inside.. Sure, Max could have waited but really there was space on the inside, Raikkonen had left enough room before Vettel turned in because he was running himself to the outside of the track.

 

Commentators don't see it that way. They mentioned Vettel could have left more room, but Max was taking the corner as usual, in hard, its my track, etc. Its becoming a pattern for him. I just watched the video at F1.com. Martin B said Vettel pinched him  bit, Not Raikonnens fault, and Verstappen is pushing it. I paused the clip just before the corner, Kimis right front was heading for the curb. A few frames on when Vettel got too close, wheels about to collide, but hadn't yet, Max was not in view. There is maybe 3 feet between Kimi and the wall. While Vettel turned in, at that point there was already no room for Verstappen. other drivers will back out when the ever closing gap closes, but he wont. 

Jaxson: Yep he's banking on others backing down and giving him space, but with vettel shutting the door, Kimi couldn't do that.

Combo to me. Vettel cut way too tight across them all, and Vers is trying to force a gap like it's a video game.

Yep, Vettel cut in tighter than he should have, but Kimi in the mass panic, just has to tighten his line. Not ideal but in the headrush of turn 1, it happens. Both get round, have a chat later, "that was a bit tight, mate" "yeah it was, Its hard to look left and right, then left again, and I got it a bit wrong, sorry" There is no Max in this convo as he would have seen a gap, great, then see it not only close, but its going to close. Whatever car took the inside line, on any corner, thats an apex, it will always close to nothing, and Kimi was there doing exactly that if you look at the video and pause about 3 meters before the corner, Verstappen wasn't there yet, and Kimi was already heading for the kerb, leaving a few feet at most from the inner wall

EDIT and Max said its his problem if he feels that way, or words to that effect. 

tdgeek:

 

benokobi: Craziest start to a race I've seen recently.

 

Max is crazy. All testosterone and no brains. Its a weekly thing now it seems. When you see other drivers defending and fighting its even more obvious.  

 

Apparently that was what Senna and Schumacher were like when they started in F1