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cruxis:
Does a assualt conviction and a little prison time effect a future that much? Especially a rugby one. I know professionals with convictions and a little jail time, They can still overseas travel, get good jobs.
Exactly. As long as jail time is less then 12 months, you just need a visa.
people are also forgetting he was only 17 when the offense occurred, and as such he is classed as a child under the law. Different rules apply .
Common sense is not as common as you think.
Not a lawyer, no special knowledge, not qualified to comment, but of course I will anyway, at least to make a general point. I have been astonished in the past by a few judgely decisions similar to this one that seemed completely off the planet. In those cases it really did strongly appear that the judge was completely away with the fairies, totally seduced by the wealth or social standing of the defendant or the defendant's family, had no concept of the law at all, and clearly didn't care what anyone thought anyway. Justice is supposed to be blind and judges are supposed to have a duty to be impartial, and I can only say that there must still be some relics from another era on the benches here who think some people are more equal than others. Judges who base their judgements on class or occupation are a disgrace in my opinion. If someone wants to have an illustrious career as a Rugby player or anything else, they shouldn't go around assaulting people. I agree wholeheartedly that there should be second chances for people who make dumb mistakes that might otherwise scar their lives forever, but aggressive assault crosses the line for me.
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I really do hope they appeal the sentence.
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Mspec:
I really do hope they appeal the sentence.
Looks like they will... http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/appeal-allowed-for-losi-filipo-assault-case-2016092914
Yup I think that is fair.
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SumnerBoy:
Mspec:
I really do hope they appeal the sentence.
Looks like they will... http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/appeal-allowed-for-losi-filipo-assault-case-2016092914
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The Solicitor-General has given police approval to appeal Losi Filipo's discharge without conviction for beating four young people in Wellington last year.
and ..
Police have filed an appeal against rugby player Losi Filipo's discharge without conviction.
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SumnerBoy:
Mspec:
I really do hope they appeal the sentence.
Looks like they will... http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/appeal-allowed-for-losi-filipo-assault-case-2016092914
and ...
The Solicitor-General has given police approval to appeal Losi Filipo's discharge without conviction for beating four young people in Wellington last year.
and ..
Police have filed an appeal against rugby player Losi Filipo's discharge without conviction.
Interesting that John Key mentioned the Solicitor-General when he was aksed about the issue when it broke. Maybe have been a hint that it doesnt end here
This has only happened because of public pressure though. If nothing had of been said or this had not been bought to light then nothing would have happened.
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vexxxboy:
people are also forgetting he was only 17 when the offense occurred, and as such he is classed as a child under the law. Different rules apply .
I was always told at 17 you are an adult in terms of criminal charges.
Oldest age for Youth Court is 16
tdgeek:Wow, I was shocked.
Its a fair point to say that his sport situation causes the punishment to exceed what Joe Average would have got. That's understandable
So, make the punishment avoid the effect on his sports, but use another form of punishment. 150 hours community service for what he did, the guy was laid up in hospital for ages, hasn't worked for 8 months.
1500 Hours community work, at a minimum of 25 hours per week
Reparation of every cents its cost the victims in lost wages, i.e. the 20% that ACC doesnt pay.
Compensation at say $5k for the guy and some for the girls.
Its also fair to say that this is a serious crime, and too freaking bad if you think you can do that and walk away. If it was a silly drunken punch then assess that but this was bad. I see he's been sacked, so maybe he can have a sentence that wont affect his career??
Mspec:
This has only happened because of public pressure though. If nothing had of been said or this had not been bought to light then nothing would have happened.
It broke, "Maybe have been a hint that it doesnt end here"
Mspec:This has only happened because of public pressure though. If nothing had of been said or this had not been bought to light then nothing would have happened.
"Filipo said in a statement earlier this week that he had made a huge mistake and had apologised for his actions."
Is this a new definition of "mistake"?
He violently assaulted four people.
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