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  # 1774165 2-May-2017 11:48
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I see another team (Sauber) has signed up to use their engines next year though.  That's a pretty bold move!


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  # 1774235 2-May-2017 12:54
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I nodded off too, usually I watch with friend but they were both of out town.  I advised them not to bother watching past the restart.

 

Any race that can be completed with 1 stop and is overtaking unfriendly will have limited action, this won't be the last snore-fest of the season.

 

Sauber taking on Honda engines is a good move for both parties.  Sauber are already at the back so can't go back further (they are currently using last years ferrari engines), and as Honda improve (they will eventually - hopefully next season) they get access to up to date tech.  Honda get an extra team for data analysis thus helping them improve faster, Sauber are cash strapped so will get very cheap engines.





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  # 1774672 2-May-2017 22:27
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Jaxson:

 

tdgeek:

 

At least it looks like a 4 horse race every race from now on

 

 

 

 

That's the best part.  Better than a two car show.


Fans/viewers want close racing, without too much artificial manipulation/intervention.

 

You also need to provide the ability for mistakes, and the likes of refuelling stops and tyre changes etc all contribute to this.

 

 

 

Rather than address this, they opted to make the cars faster.  Honestly most won't notice a 5 second a lap increase in speed of a processional train.  It makes no real difference to my enjoyment, I just see a group of cars who can't pass or follow particularly closely going around a bit faster.

 

 

I don't know if there's any racing this year. Struggling to follow or just following.





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joker97:

 

Jaxson:

 

tdgeek:

 

At least it looks like a 4 horse race every race from now on

 

 

 

 

That's the best part.  Better than a two car show.


Fans/viewers want close racing, without too much artificial manipulation/intervention.

 

You also need to provide the ability for mistakes, and the likes of refuelling stops and tyre changes etc all contribute to this.

 

 

 

Rather than address this, they opted to make the cars faster.  Honestly most won't notice a 5 second a lap increase in speed of a processional train.  It makes no real difference to my enjoyment, I just see a group of cars who can't pass or follow particularly closely going around a bit faster.

 

 

I don't know if there's any racing this year. Struggling to follow or just following.

 

 

Ferrari can follow. The other day it was just that the tyres don't fall off the cliff, so they need to forget that strategy. But in recent years I wasn't that interested in the Merc race, but this year its a 4 car race. Hopefully that will be fun to watch


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  # 1774833 3-May-2017 11:21
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Vettel was catching Bothas at a rate of knots, and came to a standstill at around 1.5s. I'd say he'd struggled to follow if he had the same pace.




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joker97: Vettel was catching Bothas at a rate of knots, and came to a standstill at around 1.5s. I'd say he'd struggled to follow if he had the same pace.

 

I dont recall that being suggested in the commentary. They suggested that Bottas's tyres came in for him. Unsure if he was managing the pace or not, I haven't looked for any post race stuff.


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  # 1774902 3-May-2017 12:44
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tdgeek:

 

joker97: Vettel was catching Bothas at a rate of knots, and came to a standstill at around 1.5s. I'd say he'd struggled to follow if he had the same pace.

 

I dont recall that being suggested in the commentary. They suggested that Bottas's tyres came in for him. Unsure if he was managing the pace or not, I haven't looked for any post race stuff.

 

 

We will know in a few races' time. The commentators are 100% biased towards Merc. They suggested that if Vettel came out behind Kimi (note: on 100% fresher tyres) that Kimi should block him all the way to the end. Watch it again.





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tdgeek:

 

joker97:

 

Jaxson:

 

tdgeek:

 

At least it looks like a 4 horse race every race from now on

 

 

 

 

That's the best part.  Better than a two car show.


Fans/viewers want close racing, without too much artificial manipulation/intervention.

 

You also need to provide the ability for mistakes, and the likes of refuelling stops and tyre changes etc all contribute to this.

 

 

 

Rather than address this, they opted to make the cars faster.  Honestly most won't notice a 5 second a lap increase in speed of a processional train.  It makes no real difference to my enjoyment, I just see a group of cars who can't pass or follow particularly closely going around a bit faster.

 

 

I don't know if there's any racing this year. Struggling to follow or just following.

 

 

Ferrari can follow. The other day it was just that the tyres don't fall off the cliff, so they need to forget that strategy. But in recent years I wasn't that interested in the Merc race, but this year its a 4 car race. Hopefully that will be fun to watch

 

 

OK I read this on the post race interview in the main F1 website. Bothas confirms that it is definitely harder to follow this year. He says 2-3 seconds (?per lap? surely not!). And tricky even to pass the to-be-lapped cars - what more a car that's of similar pace. Sure, some cars lose less time but overall everybody has More problems following. *Yawn

 

VB: It was OK. Just the main thing was with the lapped cars and trying to get past those and with these new cars we definitely lose more downforce, already two seconds, three seconds behind, so it was tricky to get close and pass them without losing time.

 

And in the same interview the other 2 Ferrari guys mentioned multiple times over that "this year" "the start is extremely crucial", suggesting they think/feel/know that people are having problems passing.





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joker97:

 

OK I read this on the post race interview in the main F1 website. Bothas confirms that it is definitely harder to follow this year. He says 2-3 seconds (?per lap? surely not!). And tricky even to pass the to-be-lapped cars - what more a car that's of similar pace. Sure, some cars lose less time but overall everybody has More problems following. *Yawn

 

VB: It was OK. Just the main thing was with the lapped cars and trying to get past those and with these new cars we definitely lose more downforce, already two seconds, three seconds behind, so it was tricky to get close and pass them without losing time.

 

And in the same interview the other 2 Ferrari guys mentioned multiple times over that "this year" "the start is extremely crucial", suggesting they think/feel/know that people are having problems passing.

 

 

Merc have always had trouble behind, they look very very average. Same this year I assume, perhaps their car is set for maximum, with the result that they are more affected in behind. Ferrari have shown they can run behind better. Given all that, getting in front is crucial for both, and that applies anytime, and especially this year as the top two teams are closer.


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Sadly due to an early flight I didn't watch. But oddly Alonso had the fourth fastest race laptime. Clearly the car is quick but thirsty. But still I guess it's promising for McLaren fans, though he still finished fourteenth.

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I watched a youtube video about the Honda engine. Apparently they were getting very good performance in the lab. Unfortunately they were using a different fuel from the one that F1 ?provides/allows?? .. so when they bolted the engine into the car and used a different fuel (not sure why!), the engine complained! So they had to turn it down.

 

Sounds simple enough to me!





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F1 fuel rules allow teams to have 5 different petrol blends for the season,  but can only use two of the blends for a race weekend. Petrol consists of 100s of hydrocarbons, and the F1 fuel blends must only contain components normally found in commercial fuels, so no nitromethane, propylene oxide, or friends. Playing with the hydrocarbon formulation can result in significantly different delivery of power and improved ability to handle ambient temperatures. In recent years cooled fuels ( contain more oxygen ) were banned, and the maximum volume of fuel was changed to a maximum mass of fuel ( 105kg? ). Mercedes moved from Mobil to Petronas, and BP has reentered F1 after 3 years away. Oil company participation is critical for optimising fuel and decreasing mechanical friction using specialist lubricants.

 

Each team must submit 5L of each blend to the FIA during race weekend, where it is tested for compliance. Each team is partered to a major oil company that will provided full fuel and oil analysis at the racetrack using mobile laboratories, as well as specific formulations for each track. FIA has reduced the unlimited fuel formulations rule up to 2016, to just 5 formulations for 2017.  Constraints on maximum power delivery were also changed, resulting in engines being redesigned to cope with extra power during racing.  With the introduction of turbulent jet ignition, fuels will be re-optimised to improve smoothness of power delivery and combustion efficiency. 2017 was expected to result in much greater stress on engines, hence the talk of using steel pistons and 3D printed components.


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The highlight for me, and no doubt for many others, was the brilliant piece of F1 PR when the cameras zoomed in on a little boy who was crying his heart out after Kimi Raikkonen's race was destroyed at the first corner.

 

 

 

I'm sure that TVOne will make this the main part of their race coverage in tonight's 6pm news.




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Good race I guess. Marc and Ferrari are streets ahead, but thats better than Marc alone being streets ahead.

 

Ferrari was unlucky. Merc sacrificing Bottas to slow Vettel, but its a team sport I guess. VSC not helping, although they should have pitted when Merc did. Hamilton whining a long way out. Standard race. Looks as though the title will be whoever blinks first, or has one more DNF as they will share spoils all year. No room for any bad luck. 




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Zippity:

 

The highlight for me, and no doubt for many others, was the brilliant piece of F1 PR when the cameras zoomed in on a little boy who was crying his heart out after Kimi Raikkonen's race was destroyed at the first corner.

 

 

 

I'm sure that TVOne will make this the main part of their race coverage in tonight's 6pm news.

 

 

And he ended up the happiest racegoer as they found him and he met Kimi


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