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#1983554 26-Mar-2018 15:19

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Bowling non spin to hit foot holes is silly. They arent pressured to score runs, they just leave them alone. Need to bowl at the stumps, force a shot, that allows a deflection

Bang on. Colin bowling into foot holes every delivery is what you do when you dont want the other team to score.

To get wickets, line and length off stump make them play the ball and try for deviation off the pitch.

OMG boult goes from hero to zero.

2 dropped catches. I was going to say earlier if we get 3 wickets in the first session we are likely to win it. Well we got 1 and 2 dropped catches.

I dont fancy our chances now, this is 2013 all over again.

Williamson is a great batsman but I honestly dont value him as a captain, hes too stephen fleming, yes our team isnt as strong as when Mccullum was around, but you have to TRY to win.

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#1983558 26-Mar-2018 15:23

OMG another speccy from Williamson. Terrible captain, sensational fielder and batsman. That was maybe better than the first innings catch?

Ok I fancy our chances again haha, Bairstow when he gets in he can go on and on. Seriously bad from Bairstow. there is nothing scary in this pitch, Eng generally getting themselves out to terrible balls. The dropped catch was a half tracker from Astle and so was that catch.

I think Williamson can afford more catching positions now. Runs are unimportant.

Todd Astles new nickname, The Half Tracker Terror hahaha. Cant blame him, hasnt been bowled all match. England really havnt applied themselves.

Malan got himself out, Bairtsow got himself out. Root only had to retire hurt and it was stumps (that was probably the biggest moment in this match)

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#1983582 26-Mar-2018 16:05

BOULTA !

great review, we suck at reviews. guess work though, no way you can blame rifel there.

Game over imo. Woakes is a great batsman in 1st class and Overton is handy, but cant see woakes hanging on 2 sessions.

Boult has one 10fa in a match, can he get another today. He deserves it, hes pretty much been 75% of this win. That first innings Ive not seen anything like it from NZ since Sir R Hadlee.

Speaking of which, now he was a real all rounder.

Avg 27 with the bat and he hit a lot of 4s, 27 in the 80s is like 30-35 now.

Bowling SR of 22. Boult SR 29 lol.

IMO Hadlee was the best Bowler and all rounder of that era, better than Lillee and Botham, Botham was probably closer as an all rounder. So many Aussies reckon Lilee is the best bowler of all time and Hadlee was not much chop.

Hadlee

http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/37224.html

Lillee

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6295.html

SR 24. Avg bat 11.

NZ had so many good players at that one period, Hadlee, Crowe, Cairns, Jones late 80s, Smith, Geoff Howarth and Martin Sneddon (jokes). I think our last decade has been our 80s type decade, due to our low amount of player pool. We produced arguably the best bowler, certainly top 3, and now producing one of the best batsman of all time, and when Shane Bond was bowling Coach we had the best opening bowling pair.

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#1983652 26-Mar-2018 17:25

Getting worried, if Woakes settles in 48 overs is not that long. Very experienced 1st class batsman, and the next man in isnt a mug with the bat.

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#1983723 26-Mar-2018 18:41

Those catches are hard, well done Southee. Again another wicket from England getting themselves out on a terrible ball. I cant blame Stokes, 188 balls for a number 5 is hard work under that much pressure, mind slip, but I think Eng will look back and realise they could easily have saved this match. Whats annoying is Williamson wont realise how easily he could have had this drawn, no lesson learnt.

In saying that, its not over yet, still 2 batsmen that can hold a blade, even Anderson isnt the worst 11. If Woakes can face 70% of the final session there is still a small chance for them.

But I think NZ/Boult will come out and Absolutely tear into them like last night. Would love to see him get another 10fa.

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#1983734 26-Mar-2018 19:06

kryptonjohn:

Oh right, sorry I'm with you know.

We've dropped a couple of catchable chances. I don't think we'll win now.

Im just back home. 2 hours to go, need 3, I think we will do it, let me check the TAB!

Still 1-33 to NZ. Cricket is a funny game. 2 hours to go but it could be over in 10 minutes.

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#1983736 26-Mar-2018 19:08

I know Wagner is a test only bowler, but why???

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#1983737 26-Mar-2018 19:09

2 hours to go. Be innovative, put almost everyone around the batsman

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#1983782 26-Mar-2018 20:11

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2 hours to go. Be innovative, put almost everyone around the batsman

I said that 4 hours ago hehe.

Well I stand by my statement, we didnt score quick enough and batted for too long.

A better team could survive 4.5 sessions and Eng did it in 2013 in Auckland.

The weather was dodgy, what if we lost another 2 sessions?

England lost that match, I dont feel NZ outside Boult and Southee day 1, we did anything special and was far too defensive knowing with basically the opposition having 1 innings all we had to do was score almost anything and declare because you just cant win without bowling the team out twice, that is the priority, not trickling our way to 400 at snails pace and wasting 2 sessions. I know Mccullum would have declared first thing in the morning.

But YAY! Has been a good season test wise and our rankings will surely rise now even if our amount of test cricket limits us to always being sub number 4 no matter how good we are.

Trent Boult clearly MotM. That ball to Root I feel was the clincher. Shame he only got 9fa, deserved another 10fa

But how many stupid mistakes did Eng make, Id say out of 10 wickets we deserved 3.Root retires hurt and game saved in all likely hood. Just a freaky part of cricket, some would say he did the sporting thing to continue playing, but imo the smart thing would have been to go get it scanned and call it stumps for the day and not tempt fate.

Eng making the same mistakes they made in the Ashes. Roots avg must have taken a hammering this tour down under.

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#1983795 26-Mar-2018 20:34

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I know Wagner is a test only bowler, but why???

In my view Wagner is a very dangerous bowler because he bowls a large number of short balls that batsmen have to either duck or use their bats to defend themselves.

Sure, he gets wickets when batsmen are caught when the ball touches their bats in an effort to defend themselves, but I think that one day he will seriously injure a batsman if he continues with this type of senseless bowling (it just shouldn't be allowed).

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#1983853 26-Mar-2018 21:59

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Sure, he gets wickets when batsmen are caught when the ball touches their bats in an effort to defend themselves, but I think that one day he will seriously injure a batsman if he continues with this type of senseless bowling (it just shouldn't be allowed).

You sound like Don Bradman hehe.

Ive got no issue with it, but honestly it does get predictable. He use to be a swing bowler. If he can mix it up a bit with yorkers I think he would be more successful. Especially in England with the Duke ball and get the in swinging offstump yorker.

I think his biggest benefit is his ticker, hes fit as F.

I feel Colin DGH is passed his pasture. Hes done nothing much with the ball since his debut. Hes ok with the bat. But we have better all rounders. Id like to see Sodhi and Santner as permanents in the squad and selected depending on the wicket. Todd Astle just cant get the Revs Sodhi can and he cant bat as well as Santner.

I want to see Guptill back in the team, hes in the squad. Im picking replace DGH and put him in ahead of Watling, then play 4 bowlers with Santner as all rounder and make Williamson bowl again when needed. We didnt need 5 bowlers this test and if we ever do Kane is perfectly capable spin bowler with a decent avg and economy, he just doesnt work on his bowling anymore which is a shame. So Id have Fergusson, Sodhi and Santner and Guptill in the 15 man squad. Im just waiting for Nicholls to see if he takes another year to score a century or if he will just fail on tour, I cant pick him yet, he suits opening. Raval is definitely the best blocker, but Nicholls isnt far behind. Id drop Latham down the line to take some pressure off. Well they are quite similar in that they are defensive batsmen, I guess its neither here nor there. But Nicholls can clearly bat a long time once hes in, i think he has more mental stamina than Latham. Just got to get Latham over his playing at home demon whatever it is. Hed be averaging in the 50s if he batted at home like he does on tour.

Nicholls has jumped up to averaging 38 now. So if we can get him over 40 that will have everyone in the team from 1 to 6 averaging over 40, thats pretty healthy. Just a shame Taylor cant play forever. Guptill could easily get from 30 to 40 if he didnt open imo. He opens in white ball because hes a shot maker, in tests he needs to have pressure taken off and told to just play his natural game. Test match opening is all about seeing the shine off the new ball and the 2 opening bowlers. Raval and Latham fill that role.

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#1985370 29-Mar-2018 12:43

Astle out Sodhi in for the CCH match. Id have liked to seen Fergusson given a chance but will see how green it is day 1.

But pretty much what I expected, Sodhi takes too many wickets to be ignored. 12-62 he ended up with for Auck in that 1st class match.

38 wickets in his 14 Tests, I think that will grow very quickly now he has some confidence. He admitted he wasnt being daring enough before or his normal self due to the nature of playing for your country. Hes worked on his fielding and batting, so whilst I dont think he will replace C DGH, I think he could end up averaging around the 20s.

Personally Id rather have Santner in there than C DGH, ok he cant field to save himself, but his economy rate with the ball and his recent form with the bat cant be ignored either. Honestly I feel like CDGH and Wagner are the spots up for grabs. Whats the harm in dropping Wags to give the young buck Fergusson a go. in saying that wags can bowl 10 over stints which is unusual for a pace bowler. I just feel they are both very nothing special bowler and CDGH could be replaced with another all rounder or make room for Guptil and make the captain do the odd over which he is plenty capable of. You have to play your 4 most attacking bowlers, you have to bowl the team out twice. i dont think with cdgh and wagner we are doing that and i dont think Colins batting makes up for his bowling.

My team would be the following to test Nicholls as an opener as he can clearly block a lot of balls after his last century, but happy with Latham at 2;

1 Raval
2 Nicholls/Latham
3 Williamson (relief bowler)
4 Taylor
5 Latham/Nicholls
6 Guptil
7 Watling
8 Southee
9 Sodhi
10 Ferguson
11 Boult

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#1985382 29-Mar-2018 13:05

ENG slight favourites at TAB

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#1985442 29-Mar-2018 14:57

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ENG slight favourites at TAB

Well out of 6 tests they are 0/6 lol, I do wonder if thats just lake of faith in NZ, which to be fair is understandable. On paper Eng are superior. But ! they are in a major form slump. I dont think we will see another sub 100 score from them, I think we may actually have to rely on our batsmen this time, who did quite good all things considered, but if they want to win a test match they cant be scoring and 1 or 2rpo first innings. Im picking williamson will go all out for the draw simply to have a test series win.

For that reason I really think putting guptil in would have made sense to increase our batting strength, hes in the squad so I would have selected him. So hes not the best opener in the world at tests, we all know he is extremely talented and can bat a long time, I think him and Watling together could be a door jam for for the middle order. I think his white ball and 1st class form he deserves another go, just put him down the order to take the pressure off and to enhance our middle order (im not confident about Nicholls yet).

Bumble is flaburgasted as to why hes not in the test team and ive heard this from other international commentary. The all know he only avg 29 opening, but all have said why play him as opener, blocking isnt his game.

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#1985880 30-Mar-2018 10:56

I think choosing to bowl is the obvious reason for NZ winning the toss. Its our strength.

Its looking packed at Hagley already.

Come on Boult, 6/3 :-) Sodhi 4/20

Englands national anthem gives me the chills, perhaps im partly a Monarchist. But it just sound stoic and uncompromising. I think our Anthem sounds better in Maori.

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