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#1986500 31-Mar-2018 18:55

Looking at the lineup this morning we have the same tail, 4. But Kane and Ross are gold the other batsmen are bronze. ENG have two golds, but also silvers, which we dont have. Equalise that with Southee and Boult. Its who caves first.

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#1986548 31-Mar-2018 20:28

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Looking at the lineup this morning we have the same tail, 4. But Kane and Ross are gold the other batsmen are bronze. ENG have two golds, but also silvers, which we dont have. Equalise that with Southee and Boult. Its who caves first.

Yeah pretty much. Bairstow is better than 9 of our batsmen and hes their number 7, its a bit daunting, but their talent keeps failing up front.

But prior to aus they were scoring 700 etc.

Just been a very long tour for them.

How are we playing cricket in April????

I really wish we had more test cricket this year, it felt like between january and march with the short form, as a fan i felt starved of cricket.

To be fair, test wise, this has been one of our best home seasons in a long time and if we beat Eng in a series maybe since the 80s.

It was meant to be a 3 test series, imagine if we were playing Mid April ROFL.

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#1986655 1-Apr-2018 08:12

This test has been pitch dependent, it seems a very tough pitch early, and with the key bowlers, this has happened to both sides. Lucky DeG found some rare form at the right time. We will probably be skittled fairly early, the last 3 will go cheap. So we will have a small deficit. It will come down to which team can get through batting better. ENG have the advantage that they may start batting today when its easier

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#1986694 1-Apr-2018 11:10

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This test has been pitch dependent

It is very odd. It has moved off the pitch. I think its the new ball does bite off the seem and as it gets older as usual cutters dont work. Also had swing at times.

Southee doing a Woods is so very awesome, showing he CAN bat not just slog.

I think if we can get to 250+ there is nothing in the match. 20 more needed.

Obviously this is going to be a result, unless England bat for 2 days and we can withstand 3 sessions. But Im hoping we can skittle them for about 250 and have 300 to chase over 2 days.

Wow if Stokes is bowling post injury, hes pretty impressive.

I think Eng have gone a little too far traditional with bowling. Id have kept Ali who averages 31 over Leach. Or if a green fast pitch, Woakes. I feel both teams are short on batting.

Great line to Sodhi, that would have taken top 5 players, Broad can be so damn accurate with that off stump that just moves away. The new ball doing the damage again. Clearly to me its the seam. Which means to me Sodhi may get a fair bit of turn.

The other 2 need to keep Southee on strike, time for Southee to up the tempo but not all out slog just yet.

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#1986698 1-Apr-2018 11:28

That was a Jafa from Anderson. Again the ball was drifting into leg then hits the seam and cuts back to straighten into middle.

Yep its the new ball thats done the damage. So NZs tactic should now be get as many with the new ball and bowl Sodhi who should get turn both ways and ask Wagner and CDGH to aim at the top of off stump and keep trying to get the ball to off cut. No more of this bowling 5 balls Eng let go then one pie which gets runs.

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#1986734 1-Apr-2018 11:56

Lol Boult has the record for most 6s ever as an 11. Southee may end up in the top 10 6s in tests of all time. Thats about 65 now, equalling ABDV.

NZ will be STOKED with this. 4/17, thats a terrible result for Eng lol

Run rate 2.97, thats all Ive ever wanted. Traditional. 3.5 is quick, 4rpo is usually when you are chasing in the final innings limited by time.

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#1986809 1-Apr-2018 15:09

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This test has been pitch dependent

This is more like the England test team of prior season. This could get scary, if they get to 200 ahead only 1 down and then put their foot down a bit they could do 5rpo until they get 5 down which might be a 400 lead and then put on another 100 with bairstow and co, declare at 500 with a day and a session left. I cant see NZ surviving that. Will really need our openers to be at their blocking best and Williamson and Taylor to be more diligent in their batting than the first innings. Now something we can expect from our tail to save us from.

For the pace bowlers we need to stack the offside and bowl 6inches to a foot from off stump, but with a good line, which if Eng want to score will require them to play at, sort of hedging our ability to take some wickets and stop the scoring. But if we stray onto the wickets Eng would just smash us for four every time on the on side, so it requires our bowlers to be patient and mindful every delivery. Eng do this in their bowling, it stifles teams into making rash mistakes. Thats if we dont get wickets before 200 run lead.

Need wickets and FAST.

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#1986825 1-Apr-2018 15:43

WOW that sounded like wood not pad, really did, cant blame NZ there. Trousers or pads have a much deeper bass sound normally.

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#1986855 1-Apr-2018 17:12

OK not going to plan.

So this is my prediction for England.

They will score circa 3rpo at declare at 400 ahead at Tea tomorrow arvo. Which gives NZ 1 day and a session to survive but its very close at 3rpo to being winnable.

Unless Eng put their foot down and score the 200 at 5 rpo which will have us in real trouble.

What NZ need to do, is what I said earlier, stack the offside and all bowlers bowl a good length 6inches out from off stump at impact and cut to 1 foot away so ENg cant turn it around to the onside. This will make Eng have to try and score on the off side which will lead to frustration and possibly wickets. But it will take a lot of concentration from our bowlers for that line and length. The pitch wont move much now with an old seam. Sodhi will need to come up with some of his jafas that he bowls in 1st class. If all that happens we may limit the total to 300, which means we are either going to get bowled out or we are going to win the game.

My hope is ENg bat for too long like NZ last match and declare tomorrow, and our top 4 stand up and stoic to every delivery, one ball at a time.

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#1986873 1-Apr-2018 18:05

A draw isnt much use to ENG. Right now they control the match. The other day they took 10 overs apart at about 7.8RR. They need to look at that so they can urgently grab a big total, making sure they have time to bowl us out. I like what they did the other day.

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#1986875 1-Apr-2018 18:09

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A draw isnt much use to ENG. Right now they control the match. The other day they took 10 overs apart at about 7.8RR. They need to look at that so they can urgently grab a big total, making sure they have time to bowl us out. I like what they did the other day.

Yep, they will get 90 in the first session. thats 320, then smash it to 400 by the middle of session 2 and I reckon they will declare around 400-430.

I think NZ are in big trouble. Its now we need our batsmen to focus on every delivery and just get tomorrow out of the way with hopefully only 1 wicket, if we acheive that, I think we have a chance of surving day 5.

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#1987114 2-Apr-2018 11:15

Really need to do this off side stacking and slow this last 100 runs down so we have the least amount of time available to survive. 90 runs a session is normal so we could well see them declare at Lunch if they put the foot down now and score 100 in 20 overs. I think being a realist we have already lost this test match. My heart says we can do it.

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#1987153 2-Apr-2018 14:30

Come on Latham and Raval, leave the wide ones and watch the ball onto the bat and block broad and anderson out. we need to look at 1 partnership per session to survive.

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#1987161 2-Apr-2018 14:33

ENG declare at a 382 lead. That can get run down but they are playing to win. Good on them I hope they win as all teams play the safe and draw game. That’s why test cricket is a fail which is sad. Who wants to watch over a day of defending at a 1 RR?

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#1987176 2-Apr-2018 15:16

tdgeek: ENG declare at a 382 lead. That can get run down but they are playing to win.

Yeah that surprised me. Thats a Mccullum type move. And a counter Mccullum type move would be to chase it down. Be diligent for first 20 overs, let the bowlers wear themselves out a bit then move on. Someone has to win this, I cant see us holding on for the draw, so lets chase it down.

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