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#2171904 2-Feb-2019 16:15

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My post was about the win. Stead said its about this series, but since we have been hammered they are now testing everyone. Bit late for that.

He was lying, the whole squad was named and tested from the start, I suppose he wanted to win every game with a 60% squad but Im starting to think hes a bit of a plonka with saying things that dont match his actions.

NZ could have won the series at 100% squad, but they needed to play games 1,2 and 3. Dont underesitimate indias current team, still very good batting squad, so what Boult did was pretty special, Kholi or no Kholi. THats the depth India has. I was very proud of him. But yes India have the depth to rest 3 top world players and still win (even though they lost) and NZ doesnt. Its that simple, I didnt see the point of resting Southee, the only player to rest was Nesham due to injury. I think Latham should try opening the next game and will be interesting to see if they play Munro down the order. And we will know if Stead has told the umpires to go for 10rpo next game if Guptil continues to hit out first ball, which I think is the coaches fault, not Guptil or Munros.

We really need to get Locle Ferguson looking at Jasprit Bumrah, both can bowl over 150lph. both tend to bowl 140-47kph. Jaspirit is just super accurate. Its early days but if he keeps up this average he will fast become the best fast-fast bowler of all time. I have big hope for Lockie but I feel he needs a different bowling coach and more time spent on him, Southee and Boult know what they are doing, surely we have a specialist spin coach.

Wow Australia, Joe Harris 180, Travis head a quick 161, and Travis Patterson another noob with a 116. At this rate we might not see the return of the Sandpaper boys.

England getting smashed by West Indies again. Im going to have to do some resarch on the team to see if they are resting anyone as the west indies dont suddney become champion beaters over night.

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#2171914 2-Feb-2019 16:28

Just on England, the ball REALLY hoops in Eng with the swing, so I think Nesham, ColinD and clearly Boult and Southee will explain their selections.

But it will also spin, Id like to see Santner, Astle and Sodhi in the squad leaving 1 player (Santner, Astle, ColinD).

Almost like yesterday. they will rest southee and or boult against guppy teams but I think we need to be careful who we dont rate high enough.

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#2171978 2-Feb-2019 19:04

TeaLeaf:

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My post was about the win. Stead said its about this series, but since we have been hammered they are now testing everyone. Bit late for that.

He was lying, the whole squad was named and tested from the start, I suppose he wanted to win every game with a 60% squad but Im starting to think hes a bit of a plonka with saying things that dont match his actions.

NZ could have won the series at 100% squad, but they needed to play games 1,2 and 3. Dont underesitimate indias current team, still very good batting squad, so what Boult did was pretty special, Kholi or no Kholi. THats the depth India has. I was very proud of him. But yes India have the depth to rest 3 top world players and still win (even though they lost) and NZ doesnt. Its that simple, I didnt see the point of resting Southee, the only player to rest was Nesham due to injury. I think Latham should try opening the next game and will be interesting to see if they play Munro down the order. And we will know if Stead has told the umpires to go for 10rpo next game if Guptil continues to hit out first ball, which I think is the coaches fault, not Guptil or Munros.

We really need to get Locle Ferguson looking at Jasprit Bumrah, both can bowl over 150lph. both tend to bowl 140-47kph. Jaspirit is just super accurate. Its early days but if he keeps up this average he will fast become the best fast-fast bowler of all time. I have big hope for Lockie but I feel he needs a different bowling coach and more time spent on him, Southee and Boult know what they are doing, surely we have a specialist spin coach.

Wow Australia, Joe Harris 180, Travis head a quick 161, and Travis Patterson another noob with a 116. At this rate we might not see the return of the Sandpaper boys.

England getting smashed by West Indies again. Im going to have to do some resarch on the team to see if they are resting anyone as the west indies dont suddney become champion beaters over night.

Ill do a reset here. We disagree more than agree, although that doesn't matter.

You like CDG and Munro, I don't. They can both perform but to me, its too rare.

We agree that this 300+ mindset is wrong. The target on any day will vary.Its a 340 pitch but it's India. Its a 280 pitch but its Sri Lanka.

Id drop Munro and CDG, we cannot afford players that will perform one day sometime. I dont rate Seifert, as he has had I think two forays into International and he has failed, but id rather he was told, "you are in for 6 games no matter what happens" then persist with proven players like CDG and Munro. Off course we make the WC final somehow (and it will be a somehow based on lacklustre management) and Munro and CDG with the game. But the reality is that's a very very tall order. WE need solid players not once every now and then players.

Munro and CDG out, Latham open. Im open to other options. Without foundation, that Guppy, Taylor, Latham, Kane can offer, we are done.

if I was broke, I would draw out my last $50 pnd out it on a horse paying $10 to get through next week, but while that can happen, its not a solution, thats my cricket analogy.

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#2171984 2-Feb-2019 19:19

And get rid of Kuddelign in the T20's

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#2172158 3-Feb-2019 12:27

This is what I'm talking about.

Colin Munro finds form at perfect time for Auckland Aces

He gets dumped for poor form, forever, although, stupidly he is a certainty for the WC. He plays for Auckland, gets 53, so he has now found form? Auckland isn't India. When he fails today he will still be a certainty for the WC. Should he fluke a score, he will be deemed to be in top form, but that fact remains his average is poor and will remain so. Reading a couple of articles, many people can't follow why some players get picked yet are not performing, Southee is another, but are certainties for the WC, while others are in form or offer huge promise such as Will Young, Ish Sodhi's form in England, and so on. Im not sure where management is betting a dollar each way for safety, or sees short term form as great, but we might dump you if you fail once (Bracewell) or what's on their mind.

What is clear is that they won't pick the best team. And what team they pick will probably keep changing.

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#2172239 3-Feb-2019 14:56

I dont think its Munro I think its whats being asked of him and Guptil. Yet Nichols opens and only gets a SR of 60-70, but Ross the Boss was hitting SR130 once Nichols was out.

And yes changing the squad so close to the WC constantly doesnt do good, its hurt the team if anything. If they just ask Guptil and Munro to play their natural game with no pressure things would be a lot happier for everybody, or swap Munro for Latham.

I dont think this 100 in first 10 overs works anymore, it worked with Mccullum, but he has failed in his last 3 t20s for Brisbane trying to do this attack immediately at all cost. IMO if we are hitting 50 off first 10 with no wickets lost thats a perfect situation depending on the team.

I think Stead should just realise this, put Latham to 2 and put Munro in at 6 and let him play his natural game.

Nichols didnt have a better record than Munro in the prior 10 matches so why is he still there. We need players we can count on, but the problem is we are using a blocker for opening and dumping the opener simply because he has done what he is asked to do, thats pretty unfair pressure and to the common cricketer who doesnt know or care about the Coaching they simply would see 15 as a failure.

Lol at England, West Indies bowled them out with only 17 runs needed, which they obviously got. This is historic WI winning a test series against Eng. I know its away, but still, it might be saying something about a WI come back in cricket.

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#2172241 3-Feb-2019 15:05

4 all rounders in the team, I called it. haha. what a laugh. definitely dont care about win or loss. this is a complete joke of a team. Why werent we testing out the team against a lesser team.

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#2172245 3-Feb-2019 15:18

I call that ball the "Hadlee" ball for that wicket, rarely seen anymore.

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#2172247 3-Feb-2019 15:28

Well bowled Boult, well placed at 3rd man Williamson. Perfect plan executed to perfection, bouncer bowled 6-12inches outside off stump. A sucker punch really lol. Well can we see if MS Dhoni injures himself for the WC, no, I wouldnt wish that on him. But Id have just rested him for the IPL

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#2172282 3-Feb-2019 15:32

OMG Gill almost identical to the Hamilton catch at mid off by Guptil.

Here is a question, does anyone seriously think Munro or Guptil wont be selected for the WC?

Wow didnt DHoni just get a huge rapture from a tiny crowd. This will be the last time we see him ever in NZ. Great man and player.

Good point by Stories (Styris), NZ havnt been in the game only when the ball swings. 2 games at the Mount was bad for us haha. Might not be a crash with Dhoni out there. But if it was Boult and Southee, then Henry and Fergusson, I think any team will struggle to smash us.

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#2172297 3-Feb-2019 15:48

BAHAHA Boult bowls the ball I called out last game, through the gate clean bowled, swinging in to the right hand batsman, takes a LOT of skill but that was gorgeous. Love it when wickets are hit. Boult will treasure that wicket for ever, the last time the Great MS Dhoni came to the crease in NZ, clean bowled.

India only do well against us with the top 3 and Dhoni in place, we only do well with our swing bowlers.

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#2172310 3-Feb-2019 17:00

Santner and Nesham just too expensive. Munro going for1.5 RPO conversely. Astles turn surely

Edit: and there he is lol

Great skills by Munro to take that shy at the stumps then catch it and then throw the stumps down. Was so quick it was like it bounced off his hand lol.

I think we have tested the part time bowlers and should put boult back on at the other end of Munro and finish this off.

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#2172314 3-Feb-2019 17:12

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4 all rounders in the team, I called it. haha. what a laugh. definitely dont care about win or loss. this is a complete joke of a team. Why werent we testing out the team against a lesser team.

Not sure what you are getting at, but wth this team management that reacts too quick, Im confused anyway

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#2172316 3-Feb-2019 17:18

Im out so not watching but keeping an eye out. 10/4 after 30 is a recovery. Its a pity we bowled first and Boult owns the game, as with the so called batting issue, nothing to learn here if the pressure is released.

Your earlier question.

Guptill is in as he produces over a long career. He also doesn't produce if he has to manufacturer runs which is my Munro issue. Munro is in as he can be a game changer, I agree with that, BUT if he is going to score 60 off 26 and win a game, and thats every blue moon, its a waste of a player. He might go out today and get 60 from 25 but we were going to win anyway. he could do that in the WC final and help us to win, BUT what are the odds? In between times we bat with one down

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#2172325 3-Feb-2019 17:41

Munro is also a very good economical bowler and IMO is a better choice than Astle and possibly Santner, but we will select Santer.

Boult drops a hard one, now he has to bowl, and Henry is warming up.

One good question raised is we should be taking our best keeper to the WC and should have been tested, and thats Watling and I forget our back up test keepers name.

Latham is ok to the seamers, but he wont step up to the wickets for Munro or Colin D, 110kph and 120kph, allowing India to standing out of there crease.

Whats much worse is our backup keeper is Nichols, now he really is not good, Im not sure if hes a backup in provincial.

India hitting out, Boult copped it now Munro in his last over was 30 off 9, now hes 47.

Astle should be 12 off this over already, but great fielding on the boundary. India are taking on anybody. We need wickets now.

Williamson should have bowled Boult and Henry out like he did the last game, these guys are seeing baloons now.

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