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  # 2010046 8-May-2018 15:15
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I liked the formula E. Found h racing fun to watch.

Long term, the pinnacle of racing is going to be an E car with 4 motors, one on each wheel.

The speed/acceleration they can generate now with this tech is mental already.
I mentioned this earlier, but I do wonder how F1 will stay relevant as is, long term.

IMO F1 needs to dump the eco slant, and save fuel in other related areas, such as team transport and using sustainable products where possible etc. It makes no sense to be fuel saving for half the race, in lame sounding motor cars.

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  # 2010177 8-May-2018 18:22
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Jaxson: I liked the formula E. Found h racing fun to watch.

Long term, the pinnacle of racing is going to be an E car with 4 motors, one on each wheel.

The speed/acceleration they can generate now with this tech is mental already.
I mentioned this earlier, but I do wonder how F1 will stay relevant as is, long term.

IMO F1 needs to dump the eco slant, and save fuel in other related areas, such as team transport and using sustainable products where possible etc. It makes no sense to be fuel saving for half the race, in lame sounding motor cars.

 

Why save fuel in a race? Its not going to save the world. They need to look at ways where each team can compete. Sharing the spoils fairly needs to happen. Im not in favour of the GP2 reverse grid, but what if quali if F1 earns points? Plus each driver takes a turn at each grid slot. 20 odd races 20 odd drivers, we all tale a turn at Pole to 20th. Mercedes has the most HP, use it, but use it in conjunction with driver skills going through the pack and race management. No, it wont se the top 6 in the top 6 places on the grid but that doesnt happen now mostly, plus factoring in turn 1 and we all miss out. 

 

Why pick tyres months out? 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2010255 8-May-2018 19:39
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tdgeek:

 

Why save fuel in a race? Its not going to save the world.

 

 

It's not going to be about saving fuel. The fastest accelerating cars will be electric. The most reliable cars will be electric.

 

 


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  # 2010392 9-May-2018 06:50
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tdgeek:

 

Why save fuel in a race? Its not going to save the world.

 

 

It's not going to be about saving fuel. The fastest accelerating cars will be electric. The most reliable cars will be electric.

 

 

 

 

I'm referring to F1. Electric is a long long way off


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  # 2010393 9-May-2018 06:55
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tdgeek:

 

frankv:

 

tdgeek:

 

Why save fuel in a race? Its not going to save the world.

 

 

It's not going to be about saving fuel. The fastest accelerating cars will be electric. The most reliable cars will be electric.

 

 

I'm referring to F1. Electric is a long long way off

 

 

...and the best sounding cars are still the V10s :D 


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Hmm, I think the V12s were the best. Mid nineties Ferrari 412 T2, they had one at Hampton Downs awhile ago, ear splitting. I should find the video I took.

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  # 2010418 9-May-2018 08:15
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tdgeek:

 

frankv:

 

tdgeek:

 

Why save fuel in a race? Its not going to save the world.

 

 

It's not going to be about saving fuel. The fastest accelerating cars will be electric. The most reliable cars will be electric.

 

 

I'm referring to F1. Electric is a long long way off

 

 

Acceleration and reliability are important things in F1. But I agree; F1 will resist. Even when the best car race technology is electric, the Formula will require ICE.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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mudguard: Hmm, I think the V12s were the best. Mid nineties Ferrari 412 T2, they had one at Hampton Downs awhile ago, ear splitting. I should find the video I took.

 


The ex-Berger-Alesi era 1994/1995 one? That is something else. I've got a clip somewhere on my YouTube channel I think. There's just something terror-inducing about the V10s. 




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  # 2017432 17-May-2018 10:12
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Last day of in-season test days and a surprise has jumped up on the timing charts.

 

Rookie Lando Norris (TRS Champ 2016)

 

He is currently a solid first place in F2, I think he will end up in Stoffels seat if there is no improvement from him.

 

 

 

Million dollar question is Brendon good enough to keep his seat next year?

 

 

 

 


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  # 2017466 17-May-2018 10:31
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Last day of in-season test days and a surprise has jumped up on the timing charts.

 

Rookie Lando Norris (TRS Champ 2016)

 

He is currently a solid first place in F2, I think he will end up in Stoffels seat if there is no improvement from him.

 

 

 

Million dollar question is Brendon good enough to keep his seat next year?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lando is pretty good. But when he is not happy he falls apart. I like George Russell quite a bit. The other F2 drivers arent much chop.

 

 

 

Sadly Brendon hasn't made any impact. Gasly is quite good, but he is no LeClerc. Brendon is no better. Although he hasnt had that much opportunity to have a clean race and show his wares. However, quite good, or really good doesn't cut it at this level, there are lots of really good drivers, but the top 2% is what is required. I'd rate Mitch Evans, he can race hard, but he can't qualify.

 

Ocon is excellent for a near rookie, that's the level thats needed.

 

Im trying to get into Formula E, but its a bit tough. Narrow tracks is boring. Evans has a rubbish car (that doesnt help!)


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Last day of in-season test days and a surprise has jumped up on the timing charts.

 

Rookie Lando Norris (TRS Champ 2016)

 

He is currently a solid first place in F2, I think he will end up in Stoffels seat if there is no improvement from him.

 

 

 

Million dollar question is Brendon good enough to keep his seat next year?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lando is pretty good. But when he is not happy he falls apart. I like George Russell quite a bit. The other F2 drivers arent much chop.

 

 

 

Sadly Brendon hasn't made any impact. Gasly is quite good, but he is no LeClerc. Brendon is no better. Although he hasnt had that much opportunity to have a clean race and show his wares. However, quite good, or really good doesn't cut it at this level, there are lots of really good drivers, but the top 2% is what is required. I'd rate Mitch Evans, he can race hard, but he can't qualify.

 

Ocon is excellent for a near rookie, that's the level thats needed.

 

Im trying to get into Formula E, but its a bit tough. Narrow tracks is boring. Evans has a rubbish car (that doesnt help!)

 

 

Can't we just be happy that Hartley is in F1 at all?

 

Greg Murphy was hot on this topic of people questioning his ability on Sky Speed last night (on again today 4:30pm Sky Sport 2 or 8pm on Sky Sport 3)

 

And Bob McMurray was talking about it too on the Driven Hour on radio sport on Monday night, listen below

 

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/darcy-and-goran/the-driven-hour/the-driven-hour-monday-14th-may/

 

And I'd have to agree with both of them, as a country, the tall poppy syndrome is alive and well, as soon as an athlete appears to be not living up to the hype and expectation, we (the collective we), have a go at them.




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tdgeek:

 

 

Can't we just be happy that Hartley is in F1 at all?

 

Greg Murphy was hot on this topic of people questioning his ability on Sky Speed last night (on again today 4:30pm Sky Sport 2 or 8pm on Sky Sport 3)

 

And Bob McMurray was talking about it too on the Driven Hour on radio sport on Monday night, listen below

 

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/darcy-and-goran/the-driven-hour/the-driven-hour-monday-14th-may/

 

And I'd have to agree with both of them, as a country, the tall poppy syndrome is alive and well, as soon as an athlete appears to be not living up to the hype and expectation, we (the collective we), have a go at them.

 

 

I'm not coming from it as a tall-poppy syndrome he as achieved what very few ever have / will. The issue is F1 is such a cut throat series that unless he produces results then even drivers will amazing potential are cut.

Also everyone agrees that an F1 car is not easy to tame and with little practice time it can be an up hill battle. Add the fact that engine changes will start causing grid spot movement and there is a possibilty that no matter how good he qualifies it could send him to the back.. Honda strike again

 

I can see Hartley moving to Indy with Dixon if things don't pan out in F1 or moving back into tin-top with old teammate bamber again. Hartley will have a long career in motorsport just where he sits will be the question


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Well said Justin.  I love it that we have a Kiwi back in F1. But like any driver he will make it or not, and so far the reality is that he isn't quite getting there. Its not tall poppy at all, its reality. Hence I said "sadly". I haven't listened to that audio but I will. Its  pity that if a Kiwi isnt making it in a sport that the daggers come out if you dare to mention the sports person isnt quite cutting it. For Brendon, its a hard ask, as it is for most rookies in F1. 

 

I feel he may not last the season, RBR are quite happy to change drivers if need be, and its hard to argue against throwing another rookie in for a few races. I'd hope that he can be given a few races that are clean to see how he goes. Gasly ran 5th recently. Does that make him special? No. He had an easy race no one around him , BH would have done the same, but F1 is harsh.  


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Well said Justin.  I love it that we have a Kiwi back in F1. But like any driver he will make it or not, and so far the reality is that he isn't quite getting there. Its not tall poppy at all, its reality. Hence I said "sadly". I haven't listened to that audio but I will. Its  pity that if a Kiwi isnt making it in a sport that the daggers come out if you dare to mention the sports person isnt quite cutting it. For Brendon, its a hard ask, as it is for most rookies in F1. 

 

I feel he may not last the season, RBR are quite happy to change drivers if need be, and its hard to argue against throwing another rookie in for a few races. I'd hope that he can be given a few races that are clean to see how he goes. Gasly ran 5th recently. Does that make him special? No. He had an easy race no one around him , BH would have done the same, but F1 is harsh.  

 

 

He got up there. His legacy may not be a World Title in his name, but there'll be some kids in karts who watch every session and want to be like him. They'll work their way through the system over the next decade. You never know what will happen.

 

 

 

Speaking of watching every session, FP1 and FP2 are tonight thanks to Monaco's Friday Markets. 


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Well said Justin.  I love it that we have a Kiwi back in F1. But like any driver he will make it or not, and so far the reality is that he isn't quite getting there. Its not tall poppy at all, its reality. Hence I said "sadly". I haven't listened to that audio but I will. Its  pity that if a Kiwi isnt making it in a sport that the daggers come out if you dare to mention the sports person isnt quite cutting it. For Brendon, its a hard ask, as it is for most rookies in F1. 

 

I feel he may not last the season, RBR are quite happy to change drivers if need be, and its hard to argue against throwing another rookie in for a few races. I'd hope that he can be given a few races that are clean to see how he goes. Gasly ran 5th recently. Does that make him special? No. He had an easy race no one around him , BH would have done the same, but F1 is harsh.  

 

 

He got up there. His legacy may not be a World Title in his name, but there'll be some kids in karts who watch every session and want to be like him. They'll work their way through the system over the next decade. You never know what will happen.

 

 

 

Speaking of watching every session, FP1 and FP2 are tonight thanks to Monaco's Friday Markets. 

 

 

Oh you again lol!  :-)

 

Cheers for the Monaco reminder! 

 

I agree, he has got up there. And while he has not appeared to be quite there, there have been many sessions where for him or the car he hasn't had a good opportunity. Start up FP, where is he?  Thats what I have been doing. The word is he will be replaced soonish. I hope he gets another drive. 

 

 


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