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  #2100141 2-Oct-2018 15:30
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I don't think it was ever a question of the Mercs duking it out or not.  It was all about insulating Hamilton from Vettel's attack.


According to a Hamilton interview (so you can take it with a grain of salt), he didn't ask for the re-order, and he didn't want it.  Apparently over the radio he said, "Just ask him (Bottas) to speed up a bit"


I can actually live with the re-order in that scenario - it's almost the same as the Force Indias swapping position to each have a go at attacking Magnussen - just in a defensive sense rather than offense. I just would have preferred for them to revert to their original positions before the end of the race once the threat from Ferrari was gone.  (But I grasp why they didn't)



It's no different from:

Kimi, Sebastian is faster than you.

Or,

Fernando is faster than you.

Multi 2-1?




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  #2100375 2-Oct-2018 22:26
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GPS data from Singapore & Sochi shows Ferrari doesn't deploy that exceptional power "boost" on the straights anymore. According to our information FIA fitted a 2nd sensor to monitor battery energy output. Is there a connection?

 

An article on the AMuS website. Coincidence or not?

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/ferrari-fia-sensor-power-vorteil/ (text in German)





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  #2100379 2-Oct-2018 22:38
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Kingy:

 

GPS data from Singapore & Sochi shows Ferrari doesn't deploy that exceptional power "boost" on the straights anymore. According to our information FIA fitted a 2nd sensor to monitor battery energy output. Is there a connection?

 

An article on the AMuS website. Coincidence or not?

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/ferrari-fia-sensor-power-vorteil/ (text in German)

 

 

I believe in F1, everybody is using tricks, everyone is up to something cheeky.

 

Sometimes people call you out, sometimes nobody knows where to look.





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  #2100397 3-Oct-2018 07:21
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Kingy:

 

GPS data from Singapore & Sochi shows Ferrari doesn't deploy that exceptional power "boost" on the straights anymore. According to our information FIA fitted a 2nd sensor to monitor battery energy output. Is there a connection?

 

An article on the AMuS website. Coincidence or not?

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/ferrari-fia-sensor-power-vorteil/ (text in German)

 

 

I believe in F1, everybody is using tricks, everyone is up to something cheeky.

 

Sometimes people call you out, sometimes nobody knows where to look.

 

 

RBR double diffuser is a good example. Now banned. But it was legal, or to be more accurate it was not illegal as deploying a double diffuser wasn't in the rules

 

As for Ferrari, its clear that they had a trick, trick now closed. Must have broken a rule but apparently not. Maybe there was an "error" in the output given...


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  #2101800 4-Oct-2018 20:59
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Just got a notification pop up the sky has been outbid for f1 and won't have it after the renewal... Clicking on pop up didn't open and now lost it... Anyone seen it?

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  #2101811 4-Oct-2018 21:03
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Found it: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12137140

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  #2101827 4-Oct-2018 21:41
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Benoire:

 

Ouch-no

 

What a stupid thing to say "Sky will show the rest of the season, including this weekend's Japanese Grand Prix"

 

Rest of the season, cool. And that includes the next GP??? Even more cool..... :-)

 

Im unsure of the F1 viewership, but to blame the times of the Euro races is just dumb. We can record, and do. I used to do the 12 midnight to 2am, I just record now. 

 

F1PBay looks more like an option....

 

Me personally I like Sky. F1, MotoGP, Grand Slam tennis and other odd sport niceties. Other channels too. Its a small but good range.

 

I recall when I used to stop paying my bill as they moved Nascar from SS1 to SS2 (an extra sub). I waited till the guy popped up to take my box away, ranted, then gave him a cheque. 

 

Unlike the Sky hate brigade, I'm fine with it. But if I see content being slowly moved away.....well enough said. Add value and we stay, such as a full Sky app, but remove content, that is a no-no.


 
 
 
 


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  #2101834 4-Oct-2018 21:51
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Im still shocked.

 

@Ockel your opinion?


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  #2101839 4-Oct-2018 22:06
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I wonder if this means that F1TV will become available in NZ from next season (depending on who gets the rights). Not that the product is great as it stands right now, but hopefully during the off-season they can tidy it up and polish it off.





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  #2101842 4-Oct-2018 22:19
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Last season me and friends stayed up to watch every 12-2am race live, got up early for the 5/6am starts and recorded the 3am to watch from 6am (still finished in time for work). 

 

Earlier this year (pre-F1 start) the guy-with-the-sky canned the service as he got a gf so wasn't at home as much.  I used skygo for the fly away rounds, but as soon as the 1am race starts hit I haven't watched a single race live, so I suspect Sky are right when they say viewership has dropped.  The other effect is that now that we don't get together to watch the 12am races the others have lost interest in catching up for the more reasonable time races (eg japanese gp this weekend - we would always do a sushi dinner during the race).

 

Hopefully this allows F1TV to stream live races in NZ and have replays available quickly (sky never had replays in previous seasons so if you missed recording a race you had no way to watch it - although that seems to have changed slightly for this season).





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Kingy:

 

I wonder if this means that F1TV will become available in NZ from next season (depending on who gets the rights). Not that the product is great as it stands right now, but hopefully during the off-season they can tidy it up and polish it off.

 

 

     

  • Full replays and highlights from every F1 session
  • Watch races from F1's historic archive
  • Watch documentaries from F1’s archive
  • Access to exclusive live timing data
  • Access to selected team radio†
  • Tyre usage history
  • Driver tracker map†
  • Only available in certain regions
  • †Available within Formula1.com and/or the F1 App

Where are live races? Can be recorded? Who are the commentators?

 

I am 100 fine if Sky NZ lost the rights to Spark or NF or Amazon. I accept competition. I can choose to retain or forego Sky, and choose to pay another sub. 

 

But I dont accept gradually losing content if Sky NZ decided to cut costs in that manner. I also love Sky UK's coverage, much the same as Sky NZ coverage of rugby. The game is obviously important but the extras are awesome. I can see Liberty Media monetising this too far. IIRC Sky UK was unsure of it will be covering all this season. They seem to will be, but the writing is on the wall. Pay to watch the race with sub standard commentary and no extras. 


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Amosnz:

 

Last season me and friends stayed up to watch every 12-2am race live, got up early for the 5/6am starts and recorded the 3am to watch from 6am (still finished in time for work). 

 

Earlier this year (pre-F1 start) the guy-with-the-sky canned the service as he got a gf so wasn't at home as much.  I used skygo for the fly away rounds, but as soon as the 1am race starts hit I haven't watched a single race live, so I suspect Sky are right when they say viewership has dropped.  The other effect is that now that we don't get together to watch the 12am races the others have lost interest in catching up for the more reasonable time races (eg japanese gp this weekend - we would always do a sushi dinner during the race).

 

Hopefully this allows F1TV to stream live races in NZ and have replays available quickly (sky never had replays in previous seasons so if you missed recording a race you had no way to watch it - although that seems to have changed slightly for this season).

 

 

I record now. I avoid the news! Surely most sports fans have MySky?? 


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Kingy:

 

I wonder if this means that F1TV will become available in NZ from next season (depending on who gets the rights). Not that the product is great as it stands right now, but hopefully during the off-season they can tidy it up and polish it off.

 

 

     

  • Full replays and highlights from every F1 session
  • Watch races from F1's historic archive
  • Watch documentaries from F1’s archive
  • Access to exclusive live timing data
  • Access to selected team radio†
  • Tyre usage history
  • Driver tracker map†
  • Only available in certain regions
  • †Available within Formula1.com and/or the F1 App

Where are live races? Can be recorded? Who are the commentators?

 

I am 100 fine if Sky NZ lost the rights to Spark or NF or Amazon. I accept competition. I can choose to retain or forego Sky, and choose to pay another sub. 

 

But I dont accept gradually losing content if Sky NZ decided to cut costs in that manner. I also love Sky UK's coverage, much the same as Sky NZ coverage of rugby. The game is obviously important but the extras are awesome. I can see Liberty Media monetising this too far. IIRC Sky UK was unsure of it will be covering all this season. They seem to will be, but the writing is on the wall. Pay to watch the race with sub standard commentary and no extras. 

 

 

That's the standard version of the app you're seeing because NZ doesn't have access to it yet. Pro version includes everything you pasted plus the following:

 

  • Watch F1 races live or on-demand
  • Access to all F1 onboard cameras
  • Access to full ‘unedited’ team radio
  • Live leaderboard

All English coverage uses the Sky Sports feed. Current price in the US is $11.99/mo or $99.99/yr





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Kingy:

 

 

 

That's the standard version of the app you're seeing because NZ doesn't have access to it yet. Pro version includes everything you pasted plus the following:

 

  • Watch F1 races live or on-demand
  • Access to all F1 onboard cameras
  • Access to full ‘unedited’ team radio
  • Live leaderboard

All English coverage uses the Sky Sports feed. Current price in the US is $11.99/mo or $99.99/yr

 

 

Tks for that. Sky SportF1 is great coverage. 


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Wow, hadn’t seen the sky news until just now.
Hope this opens up the streaming option in NZ now, although presumably the rights are there for another provider to pick it up and lock it to them next year.

As much as I don’t like sky, they did nothing wrong, and simply bid for some sports coverage rights and won them here in New Zealand. As long as rights to events are still sold in regional manner, and not considered as global/streamable from the one source, you will still be locked to one local provider to view.

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