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  # 2173515 5-Feb-2019 15:16
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I really think the 'Green' aspects of F1 are the greatest hypocrisy ...

 

 

 

 

I 100% agree with you, and I guess that's my point.  These guys are clearly struggling on multiple fronts to remain relevant and exciting in the modern age.

 

Going eco would really mean grouping races more sensibly together and finding ways to transport less gear more economically, rather than impacting race day content so much.

 

 

 

I read something once I really wished I'd kept, but it may have been pre internets days.  It made reference to the need to allow mistakes to occur, and for their consequences to be meaningful.

 

Gear changes, tyre changes, tyre choices, refuelling, manual braking and gearshifts etc all provided opportunities for things to go wrong.  If you take that away, or design tracks where a fluffed braking approach doesn't hammer you etc then you really start to erode the spectacle.  As AI and processing power develops, the human element runs a real risk of being obsolete in this sport and that's something they need to plan around.

 

 

 

When I first went to grand prix events, the sound was spine tingling and bowel shaking.  It literally scared the s out of you and you needed earplugs or your ears would bleed.  
They have a job to recapture that essence.

 

 

 

That all sounds doom and gloom, but I hope it's addressed at some stage.


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  # 2173524 5-Feb-2019 15:27
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I don't really agree. I doubt many fans care how much fuel and emissions are used each race weekend. The eco side isn't how how planet friendly F1 is, its about a new technology that F1 will bring to the road car. What is missing is Hamilton and Vettell are toe to toe again this weekend, who will win we don't know, and the two RBR drivers won three races and 5 races ago as well, its a 6 horse close race. With the usual wheel to wheel action

 

Thats the problem. If we had that it doesn't matter if they are the current cars or 150dB hulks.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2173531 5-Feb-2019 15:45
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I doubt many fans care how much fuel and emissions are used each race weekend.

 

 

 

 

I don't think they do either.

 

I'm saying make eco progress in the supporting aspects of F1 logistics, but keep the racing focused primarily on racing.


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  # 2173563 5-Feb-2019 16:38
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tdgeek:

 

Thats the problem. If we had that it doesn't matter if they are the current cars or 150dB hulks.

 

 

I honestly think the sound is one of the best things about going to a Grand Prix (pre-hybrid). There's almost nothing else like it. I went to Silverstone in 2000 for the British Grand Prix, I think they may have been 3.0L V10s then. They were deafening, I wore earplugs of course, but what TV never really broadcast was the sound of them downshifting, they'd be popping and crackling like the V8 supercars into the braking zones which I never heard on TV. 

 

Yes obviously they're going extremely fast but for me, it was the noise. 


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  # 2173789 6-Feb-2019 07:41
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Will be on Spark Sport
https://www.spark.co.nz/sport

 

 

By registering your interest in Spark Sport you agree to receiving emails and text messages about the service, including marketing and advertising messages.

 

Hmmm,,, not *that* interested.

 

 


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  # 2173805 6-Feb-2019 09:27
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mudguard:

 

tdgeek:

 

Thats the problem. If we had that it doesn't matter if they are the current cars or 150dB hulks.

 

 

I honestly think the sound is one of the best things about going to a Grand Prix (pre-hybrid). There's almost nothing else like it. I went to Silverstone in 2000 for the British Grand Prix, I think they may have been 3.0L V10s then. They were deafening, I wore earplugs of course, but what TV never really broadcast was the sound of them downshifting, they'd be popping and crackling like the V8 supercars into the braking zones which I never heard on TV. 

 

Yes obviously they're going extremely fast but for me, it was the noise. 

 

 

The sheer violence of downshifts and the anguised wails of the V10s were magical. I legitimately miss being able to hear a difference between the cars (e.g. the Mercedes in the McLaren, the Ferrari and the honky-tonk BMW engine). Even though the V10s could sound a little flat from the onboards, the external sound was something else. 

 

https://youtu.be/NeaZGv8D_kI

 

Even when the leader was miles out in front, at least you had the sound. 


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  # 2174141 6-Feb-2019 20:04
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Seenthe other thread on F1 2019 got shutdown.. Ill post this here

 

 

Here we go - 2019/2020 season will be interesting with so many driver moves. Team/Driver List
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Mercedes
Full team name: Mercedes-AMG Petronas Motorsport
#44 Lewis Hamilton
#77 Valtteri Bottas

 

 

 

Ferrari
Full team name: Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow
#5 Sebastian Vettel
#16 Charles Leclerc

 

 

 

Red Bull
Full team name: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing
#10 Pierre Gasly
#33 Max Verstappen

 

 

 

Renault
Full team name: Renault F1 Team
#3 Daniel Ricciardo
#27 Nico Hulkenberg

 

 

 

Haas
Full team name: Rich Energy Haas F1 Team
#8 Romain Grosjean
#20 Kevin Magnussen

 

 

 

McLaren
Full team name: McLaren F1 Team
#4 Lando Norris
#55 Carlos Sainz

 

 

 

Racing Point
Full team name: Racing Point F1 Team
#11 Sergio Perez
#18 Lance Stroll

 

 

 

Sauber (Now Renamed Alfa Romeo Racing)
Full team name: Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team (Now Renamed Alfa Romeo Racing)
#7 Kimi Raikkonen
#99 Antonio Giovinazzi

 

 

 

Toro Rosso
Full team name: Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda
#23 Alexander Albon
#26 Daniil Kvyat

 

 

 

Williams
Full team name: Williams Racing
#63 George Russell
#88 Robert Kubica
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Rounds
1 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne - 17-Mar
2 Bahrain Grand Prix - Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir - 31-Mar
3 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai - 14-Apr
4 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku City Circuit, Baku - 28-Apr
5 Spanish Grand Prix - Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Montmeló - 12-May
6 Monaco Grand Prix - Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo - 26-May
7 Canadian Grand Prix - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - 9-Jun
8 French Grand Prix - Circuit Paul Ricard, Le Castellet - 23-Jun
9 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring, Spielberg - 30-Jun
10 British Grand Prix - Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone - 14-Jul
11 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, Hockenheim - 28-Jul
12 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, Mogyoród - 4-Aug
13 Belgian Grand Prix - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Stavelot - 1-Sep
14 Italian Grand Prix - Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza - 8-Sep
15 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore - 22-Sep
16 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, Sochi - 29-Sep
17 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka International Racing Course, Suzuka - 13-Oct
18 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Mexico City - 27-Oct
19 United States Grand Prix - Circuit of the Americas, Austin, Texas - 3-Nov
20 Brazilian Grand Prix - Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo - 17-Nov
21 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi - 1-Dec
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Can Mclaren pull one out of the bag or will there still be preformance issues? We know Lando can drive he is also a TRS winner.

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2174154 6-Feb-2019 20:47
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The thing is will Honda give Red Bull wings or will it blow it up




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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  # 2174248 7-Feb-2019 07:39
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Batman: The thing is will Honda give Red Bull wings or will it blow it up


Should be good to go after mclaren helped test it in the early years.

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  # 2174249 7-Feb-2019 07:41
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🏎I wonder if Audi will bring anything interesting to the mix over the next few years 🤔

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  # 2174251 7-Feb-2019 07:44
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If the Honda has a few more horses then Renault, then it would be all on this year. But new regs, its a reset and some will have got it right more than others, are 2 seconds a lap better, but after 5 years it will be closer, rinse and repeat

 

Its so annoying, after 5 years of these hybrids, last year was a 2 team championship, this year likely that RBR is closer, so a genuine 6 car title race (well, 3 car actually....)


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  # 2174281 7-Feb-2019 09:51
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Jaxson:
Batman: The thing is will Honda give Red Bull wings or will it blow it up


Should be good to go after mclaren helped test it in the early years.


I wonder if McLaren hindered the development rather than helped it. The chassis was obviously nothing special.

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I've just seen this on the Autocar NZ Facebook page..

 

https://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/formula-one-may-not-be-screened-live-in-new-zealand?fbclid=IwAR2HKn_CXP8pbAkHcAVoSZMH9VjJIyDJ-U1EIWpbsVKCN-5Td5Otiwofxeo

 

They've reached out to Spark Sport for comment.

 

Also on the Autocar NZ Facebook page was this comment from a user, regarding pricing

 

 

 


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  # 2175108 8-Feb-2019 16:40
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

I've just seen this on the Autocar NZ Facebook page..

 

https://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/formula-one-may-not-be-screened-live-in-new-zealand?fbclid=IwAR2HKn_CXP8pbAkHcAVoSZMH9VjJIyDJ-U1EIWpbsVKCN-5Td5Otiwofxeo

 

They've reached out to Spark Sport for comment.

 

Also on the Autocar NZ Facebook page was this comment from a user, regarding pricing

 

 

 

So the question will it be "Netflix" level pricing per sport or for the whole subscription


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  # 2175111 8-Feb-2019 16:51
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Would be cool if what they get rights to aligned with what I want.

 

very obvious, but we're after F1, rugby and league primarily in our house, so will be keen to see what they offer.

Rugby is covered via ESPN+ and dns4me, for $11.50NZD per month, but would prefer an all in one of course.


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