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  # 2285046 29-Jul-2019 09:11
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I have zero interest in watching any sport.


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  # 2285048 29-Jul-2019 09:22
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Love my sports, especially rugby. Played rugby all through school and uni (whilst getting my degree naturally) then played for a bit in Japan. Follow local club teams all the way up to the AB's. Follow football, cricket, netball, surfing, NFL, NBA, canoe polo and running events. Don't do much, participation wise, other than run stupid amounts and the occasional bike ride, but heavily involved in making sure my kids enjoy their sports. I do miss the camaraderie and friendships developed through sports but have made some seriously good friends through sports who still keep in touch regularly to this day.






 
 
 
 


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  # 2285050 29-Jul-2019 09:26
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I think the original question was whether people liked watching the sport versus the sport itself.

To be fair people can watch what they like. I have no concerns about rwc affecting our net like the aussies, even if Japan starts broadcasting in 8k like they’re probably gonna do at the olympics.

I still like the example of a kid watching his favourite team in competitive Overwatch and his dad comes in and tells him off for watching video games. “Go do something productive” he says before meandering over to the TV to watch his favourite team play rugby/soccer/football. Same thing but one is more accepted.

If you enjoy it then by all means spend your time on it. Different strokes for different folks.

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  # 2285051 29-Jul-2019 09:28
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surfisup1000:

 

So, who is going to post "Who doesn't like soccer"?

 

Inane!  

 

 

Not inane at all, rather thinking this question (even when worded in such a rough manner) is inane suggests a lack of interest in a sociological understanding of our culture. 

 

The hold that rugby has over this country, its people and its conversations is strong; it's so tightly interwoven with our sense of national identity; part of our 'hard but fair' ethos, our outdoorsy life, the mateship culture, our drinking habits... 

 

To say 'I don't like rugby' is a statement that cuts against that dominant cultural touchstone. That's always an interesting conversation, and certainly not an inane one when it potentially involves exploring and critiquing New Zealand's national identity (not something we're necessarily very good at doing). 

 

 


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  # 2285054 29-Jul-2019 09:36
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I find the people who don't like rugby far more vocal about rugby than most people who do watch rugby. It's odd, it's like they're ramping up the importance of the thing they don't like just to get more points for rebelling against it.

 

New Zealand in the 21st century is far more sophisticated than just 'rugby obsessed'. We have sport from all around the world, we have more and more people playing sports like football. There's a huge element of our national identity that has nothing to do with rugby or even sport, and hyping up how important rugby is does a major disservice to what it means to be a New Zealander. 


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  # 2285062 29-Jul-2019 10:05
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jonathan18:

 

surfisup1000:

 

So, who is going to post "Who doesn't like soccer"?

 

Inane!  

 

 

Not inane at all, rather thinking this question (even when worded in such a rough manner) is inane suggests a lack of interest in a sociological understanding of our culture. 

 

The hold that rugby has over this country, its people and its conversations is strong; it's so tightly interwoven with our sense of national identity; part of our 'hard but fair' ethos, our outdoorsy life, the mateship culture, our drinking habits... 

 

To say 'I don't like rugby' is a statement that cuts against that dominant cultural touchstone. That's always an interesting conversation, and certainly not an inane one when it potentially involves exploring and critiquing New Zealand's national identity (not something we're necessarily very good at doing). 

 

 

You're going to get a steady list of people for and against rugby.   

 

Conclusion: People enjoy different things.   Not at all surprising or interesting.   

 

But, reading into the question. If you don't like rugby then that's okay, it's a free country, but don't judge and look down on those who enjoy it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2285065 29-Jul-2019 10:09
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I find the people who don't like rugby far more vocal about rugby than most people who do watch rugby. It's odd, it's like they're ramping up the importance of the thing they don't like just to get more points for rebelling against it.


New Zealand in the 21st century is far more sophisticated than just 'rugby obsessed'. We have sport from all around the world, we have more and more people playing sports like football. There's a huge element of our national identity that has nothing to do with rugby or even sport, and hyping up how important rugby is does a major disservice to what it means to be a New Zealander. 



I agree with both of your paragraphs - but at the same time (even as a rugby follower) I do think there is too much emphasis put on rugby in NZ. I enjoy the rugby but get sick of the excessive media coverage (if that’s not contradictory).




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  # 2285070 29-Jul-2019 10:22
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Just to be perfectly clear, if anyone actually reads my question, as phrased in my original post, they ought to be able to see that I was careful not to make any value judgments. I was not taking a stand for or against rugby or any other sport. I was merely stating that sport of any kind doesn't move me personally and I was wondering if there were others who felt the same. I did not say I don't like rugby. I said I was indifferent. I neither like nor dislike it. I feel the same way about every other sport I have ever seen, including gridiron, soccer ('football'), basketball, netball, and all the others. When I see it, it doesn't interest me. I don't hate it. I just don't feel anything at all. Apparently a few others here are similar, and that was my question. Nothing inane about it at all.

 

 





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  # 2285071 29-Jul-2019 10:26
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Rikkitic:

 

Just to be perfectly clear, if anyone actually reads my question, as phrased in my original post, they ought to be able to see that I was careful not to make any value judgments. I was not taking a stand for or against rugby or any other sport. I was merely stating that sport of any kind doesn't move me personally and I was wondering if there were others who felt the same. I did not say I don't like rugby. I said I was indifferent. I neither like nor dislike it. I feel the same way about every other sport I have ever seen, including gridiron, soccer ('football'), basketball, netball, and all the others. When I see it, it doesn't interest me. I don't hate it. I just don't feel anything at all. Apparently a few others here are similar, and that was my question. Nothing inane about it at all.

 

 

 

 

Just wondering the purpose of the question though? Surely, you'd know in advance that some people don't like Rugby, just like there are people who don't like the Arts, or all manner of things. Was it to be a springboard to a particular discussion if you found a group that didn't like Rugby? I am genuinely curious?

 

 


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  # 2285079 29-Jul-2019 10:34
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Rikkitic:

Just to be perfectly clear, if anyone actually reads my question, as phrased in my original post, they ought to be able to see that I was careful not to make any value judgments. I was not taking a stand for or against rugby or any other sport. I was merely stating that sport of any kind doesn't move me personally and I was wondering if there were others who felt the same. I did not say I don't like rugby. I said I was indifferent. I neither like nor dislike it. I feel the same way about every other sport I have ever seen, including gridiron, soccer ('football'), basketball, netball, and all the others. When I see it, it doesn't interest me. I don't hate it. I just don't feel anything at all. Apparently a few others here are similar, and that was my question. Nothing inane about it at all.


 



Your disinterest in sport makes your avatar photo and its caption interesting. 😀




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  # 2285080 29-Jul-2019 10:34
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No it wasn't. My question was genuine and I wasn't trying to start a debate about any sport or sport in general. Sport doesn't move me and I know I am in a minority in that regard. I don't know why I feel that way. I just wondered if there were others, especially here, where Rugby in particular is highly valued.

 

Edit: reply to @Networkn

 

 





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eracode:

 


Your disinterest in sport makes your avatar photo and its caption interesting. 😀

 

The fact that a fat man plays golf has nothing to do with it. That avatar exists for purely political reasons.

 

 





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I agree with both of your paragraphs - but at the same time (even as a rugby follower) I do think there is too much emphasis put on rugby in NZ. I enjoy the rugby but get sick of the excessive media coverage (if that’s not contradictory).

 

I wonder how much of it is a hangover from lazy stereotyping tbh. 


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  # 2285096 29-Jul-2019 11:16
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I dont mind rugby.
I've had seasons passed to Superrugby for probably 10 years. A hole bunch of us from work head off watch the game and drink a beer or two. If we win great of we lose so what. Team building.

What I find tiresome is the placing of sportsman (invariably men rather than women) on this peddle stone of being "heros" - are arent they amazing we should look up to them etc...

Ok there are some very impressive skilled players but there are many such people in many fields.

Where are the science and arts heroes - paradoxically looking at intellectual careers is "elitist" and somehow wrong but elistest athletes which share a similarly weak link to the general public are somehow ok.

I find it depressing how there is this suggestion sometimes that sports are the way under representative minorities can succeed when if you put a similar amount of hours into studying you would be more likely to succeed in your career over 40 years rather than less than 10 for all but a very small minority.

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  # 2285261 29-Jul-2019 15:20
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I'm with @Behodar 

 

I used to be indifferent to it, but now I feel like I dislike it simply because im automatically expected to like/understand/know when a big game is on etc.

 

Its a real conversation stopper at the bottle store on a Friday night when being served I get asked if I'm watching the game tonight and I reply with "what game? The looks I get are of confusion and then not much else is said.


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