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#2948741 1-Aug-2022 08:26

Indeed. Max's side of the RBR garage is sublime at the moment. Max's overall driving is consistent and fast and he's biding his time well these days. Perez on the other hand is no where... There are rumours on the internet which are probably unfounded but suggest that Perez is running a compliant floor compared to Max for them to test for the post summer break changes... its the only reason I can see that Perez speed has just suddenly dropped off, otherwise RBR have developed again in Max favour which is odd as it leaves the team itself at risk of not maximising points.

Ferrari are just funny. After watching the two Alpines and one Haas run the hard tyre and not switching it on, they then put their leading driver on to it... It didn't work and worse of all they then lost position to Lewis!

Mercedes are clearly the 3rd best car in qualifying, have trouble swithcing the tyres on but have great race pace over the full distance... Not as fast as Ferrari or RBR but consistent and great on the tyres when they're up to temp. Be interesting to see whether the floor changes mean they are in contention with Ferrari (who have said they are affected by the floor changes) and perhaps RBR if Perez speed is down to a floor tweak.

Happy days as a brit though to see 3 british drivers in the top 10!

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#2948748 1-Aug-2022 08:46

Yep, agree. Post Summer break will be interesting. No idea why they let Lewis and George race when Lewis was faster on new softs. He would never catch Max (even tho the commentary thought that), BUT late rain was a possibility (almost happened), a late safety car (almost happened) a Max mistake, or a Max mechanical issue, but they never maximised Lewis closing on Max in case anything happened

Also, George was in a Rosberg situation (I was in front how come after pitstops I'm behind??) Seems to be an engineered Lewis gain, to avoid the much hated team management of the cars

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#2948753 1-Aug-2022 08:52

tdgeek:

Yep, agree. Post Summer break will be interesting. No idea why they let Lewis and George race when Lewis was faster on new softs. He would never catch Max (even tho the commentary thought that), BUT late rain was a possibility (almost happened), a late safety car (almost happened) a Max mistake, or a Max mechanical issue, but they never maximised Lewis closing on Max in case anything happened

Also, George was in a Rosberg situation (I was in front how come after pitstops I'm behind??) Seems to be an engineered Lewis gain, to avoid the much hated team management of the cars

I don't think the Lewis/George switch was down to engineering the gain for Lewis, it was the starting strategy. Lewis was in 7th, George in 1st. They needed George to scamper away which the softs give but Lewis was surrounded and the team would have wanted to have gone long... the problem was the mediums didn't last as long as expected and the softs on low fuel where better... I think its just down to the whole starting tyre combo. If they had done Soft/Medium/Hard for George then I'd agree or Soft/Hard but in this case it was Soft/Medium/Medium which should be a pretty mighty combination.

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#2948766 1-Aug-2022 09:34

Until now I have no idea what happened. At the start it looked like CLC - GR - MV and then at the end it was nothing like that.

I predicted the Ferrari clowns but how did Merc get GR behind.

Was there much rain?

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#2948767 1-Aug-2022 09:36

Nope, not enough to cause problems for those on soft/mediums.

Essentially Ferrari shook their magic 8 ball and chose a strategy that corresponded to a monkey.

Mercedes showed some really good race pace but the starting row position for George probably compromised his race against Lewis.

Max was great and the car is fast. Perez was not so great and the car was slow... go figure?!

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#2948823 1-Aug-2022 10:00

Id like Gasly back in RBR. He would take that and settle as No.2 driver and be a better points accumulator and wingman than Perez who isnt either. As the three top teams compress, you need a No.2 driver that delivers

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#2948854 1-Aug-2022 10:53

Redbull have an army of strategic geniuses with the power of Oracle super computers running millions of simulations back at HQ, pretty sure Ferrari are using the work experience kid who has a broken pencil and a soggy napkin.

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#2948920 1-Aug-2022 11:37

langi27:

Redbull have an army of strategic geniuses with the power of Oracle super computers running millions of simulations back at HQ, pretty sure Ferrari are using the work experience kid who has a broken pencil and a soggy napkin.

I prefer the Ferrari Magic 8 Ball... would be consistent with its inconsistency 😁

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#2948922 1-Aug-2022 11:46

langi27:

Redbull have an army of strategic geniuses with the power of Oracle super computers running millions of simulations back at HQ, pretty sure Ferrari are using the work experience kid who has a broken pencil and a soggy napkin.

Binotto will be gone soon. Its he or his strategy team that must go, assuming they make the call that he agrees to. Or maybe he makes the call

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#2949033 1-Aug-2022 12:26

Hamilton says Mercedes have ‘potential to win’ after ‘pretty epic’ drive to second in Hungary

I cant see that at all. They are improving and thats a good thing, but as expected they ran third of the top two teams, but ended up second as Ferrari again mistaked their way down the order

Short track helps Merc as did the smooth surface so no bouncing and not a power limited circuit. Remember that Max came from 10th, and Ferrari should have comfortably beaten Max as both cars are very equal (although a different means to get a simular lapitime) IMO Mercedes are a clear third, but a closer third

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#2949048 1-Aug-2022 12:38

Really enjoyed that race. Ferrari's strategists just make the most baffling decisions...just can't understand it. Seems to get worse each week. It's like they are detached from the race & making decisions without actually looking at what is going on at the time.

Mercedes could have second in the constructors sewn up if this continues. Maybe even first if Checo doesn't pull finger. Speaking of him... bit of a mystery what's happened? He was super competitive at the start of the season but has slowly been getting farther away from Max. Checo said the cars were identical spec in France when asked.

Could it just be the upgrades RB have brought were primarily from Max's feedback & now the car doesn't suit Checo so well? It seems a bit odd.

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#2949051 1-Aug-2022 12:41

wratterus:

Could it just be the upgrades RB have brought were primarily from Max's feedback & now the car doesn't suit Checo so well? It seems a bit odd.

Wouldn't be the first time this has happened. RBR seem to focus on the drivers world championship rather than the constructors otherwise they would desperately be trying to get Perez in the window rather than 5th...

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#2949112 1-Aug-2022 13:18

Maybe Checo just isn't that good. On his Sunday best he is, but thats not that often. If he needs a few ducks lined up to look ok, well that's not great

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#2949324 1-Aug-2022 16:21

Ferrari would do better to outsource race strategy at this point in time.
Run short 1min polls to the viewing audience and act on that.

I mean seriously giving the choice should we switch to hards at this point? yes/no would be a pretty clear cut answer 😂

Mercedes have managed to dial their car in a bit from the start of the season, so that's good to see.
They are still running a pretty unique body shape so if they can get it to work would be hard to copy etc.

Interesting to see teams where there is a difference between cars and those where there are not.
Mercedes were close and so often is Alpine. Ferarri has been hit and miss, as has Red Bull, with each of their #2 drivers sometimes not understanding the mission objective.

You get the feeling those gaps are where drivers natural style doesn't suit the car. And you get the feeling someone like Alonso is just better at adapting to eek performance out of whatever you give him, no matter what it behaves like.

McLaren are next levelling this, and with Ricciardo sitting 12 on 19 points vs Norris in 7th on 76 points.
Likewise Alfa Romeo with Bottas in 9th with 46 points vs Guanyu in 17 with 5

Aston Martin should be miles ahead given the money and driver there. Vettel retiring does open the driver market there.
Williams is still Williams.
Hass and Alphatauri have similar championship points/driver gaps. I don't think we'll ever see Haas like we did when they crashed onto the scene and copied other cars etc. They made a huge impact those first few seasons, but then it went south and so did the sponsorship money.

That last race, man I wanted some rain to spice that up. See's us into a month long break from racing now.

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#2949391 1-Aug-2022 16:58

Jaxson:

See's us into a month long break from racing now.

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