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mattwnz
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  #3244554 5-Jun-2024 00:20
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Handle9: NZC wants nothing to do with high capacity stadiums. They don’t make any economic sense for them. They want 5000-10000 seat stadiums for test cricket and a bit bigger for limited over cricket.

If a new stadium is built it should be rectangular and be able to stage concerts and events 365 days a year. It also needs to be equitably accessible from the west, south and north which means the CBD. That’s the only way it makes any sense at all.

 

 

 

There is nothing like going to a cricket game at the MCG with 80,000 people watching an exciting ODI. I have been the the Wellington stadium, when full with 40,000 and that isn't bad but does feels small and doesn't have quite the atmosphere. 


 
 
 

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  #3244555 5-Jun-2024 00:34
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mattwnz:

 

Handle9: NZC wants nothing to do with high capacity stadiums. They don’t make any economic sense for them. They want 5000-10000 seat stadiums for test cricket and a bit bigger for limited over cricket.

If a new stadium is built it should be rectangular and be able to stage concerts and events 365 days a year. It also needs to be equitably accessible from the west, south and north which means the CBD. That’s the only way it makes any sense at all.

 

 

 

There is nothing like going to a cricket game at the MCG with 80,000 people watching an exciting ODI. I have been the the Wellington stadium, when full with 40,000 and that isn't bad but does feels small and doesn't have quite the atmosphere. 

 

 

Most ODIs at the MCG get 10k-20k now. T20s get better crowds but ODI as a format is pretty dead.

 

NZC can't afford big stadiums anymore. The crowds don't come which is why they have pushed the small stadium strategy. It's been a very successful strategy.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/11/28/fans-prefer-grass-banks-picnic-atmosphere-new-zealand-have-embraced/

 

It's also why Auckland doesn't host tests anymore. There isn't a suitable stadium compared to Hagley, Seddon, the Basin or Bay Oval.


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  #3244612 5-Jun-2024 08:53
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Handle9:

 

Most ODIs at the MCG get 10k-20k now. T20s get better crowds but ODI as a format is pretty dead.

 

NZC can't afford big stadiums anymore. The crowds don't come which is why they have pushed the small stadium strategy. It's been a very successful strategy.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/11/28/fans-prefer-grass-banks-picnic-atmosphere-new-zealand-have-embraced/

 

It's also why Auckland doesn't host tests anymore. There isn't a suitable stadium compared to Hagley, Seddon, the Basin or Bay Oval.

 

 

Bay Oval is so good for cricket - it's in a great spot, it's perfectly set up for cricket and it's sized "just right". 

 

A new stadium in Auckland needs to be rectangular and non-cricket-friendly. It also needs to be smaller capacity, because as anyone that has been to a Blues game at Eden Park will tell you - a large stadium (50k seater) with just a few thousand people in it, is a hollow and uninviting place. 





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Happened to see this: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/06/03/a-new-wave-of-stadium-building-is-busting-budgets-in-america

 

"Virtually every new professional-sports venue in America is built with public funds. That has been true for decades, but the subsidies are only growing—even as evidence piles up that they are almost always lousy investments."





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