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  Reply # 537221 25-Oct-2011 11:02
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Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

 

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  Reply # 537310 25-Oct-2011 15:05
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10761451


Good grief! I don't think anyone thought IRB would let them away with it, another $5000 in the IRB coffers!

They really have been the negative focus of the tournament.

BTW congrats to Auckland transport who have done an outstanding job. We used Public Transport all weekend and it didn't miss a beat!

I bet the French will think it the best 5K they spent during their visit!

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  Reply # 537331 25-Oct-2011 15:59
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networkn: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10761451


Good grief! I don't think anyone thought IRB would let them away with it, another $5000 in the IRB coffers!

They really have been the negative focus of the tournament.

BTW congrats to Auckland transport who have done an outstanding job. We used Public Transport all weekend and it didn't miss a beat!

I bet the French will think it the best 5K they spent during their visit!


I saw it as them accepting the challenge, nothing wrong with that, I'd much rather they take a couple of steps forward than turn their backs to it. 

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  Reply # 537334 25-Oct-2011 16:10
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Agree!

I wish the AB's had made a step forward too.

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  Reply # 537339 25-Oct-2011 16:17
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Hobchild:
networkn: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10761451


Good grief! I don't think anyone thought IRB would let them away with it, another $5000 in the IRB coffers!

They really have been the negative focus of the tournament.

BTW congrats to Auckland transport who have done an outstanding job. We used Public Transport all weekend and it didn't miss a beat!

I bet the French will think it the best 5K they spent during their visit!


I saw it as them accepting the challenge, nothing wrong with that, I'd much rather they take a couple of steps forward than turn their backs to it.?


The problem was that they went over the half way line. If they hadn't done that, it should have been fine. It certainly rattled the All B's though, so it was probably worth the fine.

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  Reply # 537342 25-Oct-2011 16:22
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Any word on Crudens injury?

How long will he and Slade be out for?

I don't think there is any more rugby except perhaps Barbarians between now and next year correct?

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  Reply # 537343 25-Oct-2011 16:23
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Also never ceases to amaze me how little that trophy is for such a hard road to win it!

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  Reply # 537356 25-Oct-2011 16:55
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networkn: Also never ceases to amaze me how little that trophy is for such a hard road to win it!


It is actually quite big, and is around the same size as the football one. I think it is nicer than the football one too.

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  Reply # 537363 25-Oct-2011 17:06
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networkn: Also never ceases to amaze me how little that trophy is for such a hard road to win it!


I reckon and yet the Bledisloe cup is massive.

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  Reply # 537416 25-Oct-2011 20:02
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solid gold vs silver perhaps??

time for team of the tournament -
mine is a mix of abilities and consistency

1 - Jannie Du Plessis
2 - Kevin Mealamu
3 - Adam Jones
4 - Brad Thorn
5 - Victor Matfield
6 - Jerome Kaino
7 - Richie McCaw
8 - Roby Faletau
9 - Dimitri Yachvili
10 - Franscois Trinh-Duc
11 - Israel Dagg
12 - Jamie Roberts
13 - Adam Ashley-Cooper
14 - Cory Jane
15 - Kurtley Beale

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  Reply # 537993 26-Oct-2011 23:05
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networkn: Hi There!

Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

 


While it is good we finally won the WRC, I wholeheartedly agree with Dingbat, also the game could have gone either way in the last 10 minutes. A 1 point win is a lucky win.
The French showed up to win, we showed up NOT to lose.
I believe the AB's choked, IMHO.

Had the French managed a penalty or a dropped goal, Tongans would never let us forget... 'They' beat the French, and by more than 1 point.
I'm confident we were/are better than this froggy team by a lot more than the winning margin. Roll on 2015 ;)

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  Reply # 537998 26-Oct-2011 23:29
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Evolbob:
networkn: Hi There!

Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

 


While it is good we finally won the WRC, I wholeheartedly agree with Dingbat, also the game could have gone either way in the last 10 minutes. A 1 point win is a lucky win.
The French showed up to win, we showed up NOT to lose.
I believe the AB's choked, IMHO.

Had the French managed a penalty or a dropped goal, Tongans would never let us forget... 'They' beat the French, and by more than 1 point.
I'm confident we were/are better than this froggy team by a lot more than the winning margin. Roll on 2015 ;)


We beat that French team by 20 points, we also beat Tonga by 31. The truth is by the time of the grand final both teams had a very different line up, we didn't have a full time goal kicker and therefore missed out on a lot of opportunities to increase our lead. But in the end we won anyway. IMHO the French were the luckiest team ever in the history of RWC. They scraped through barely in the pool matches and just barely beat Wales in the semi's. Their luck ran out.

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  Reply # 537999 26-Oct-2011 23:33
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Hobchild:
Evolbob:
networkn: Hi There!

Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

?


While it is good we finally won the WRC, I wholeheartedly agree with Dingbat, also the game could have gone either way in the last 10 minutes. A 1 point win is a lucky win.
The French showed up to win, we showed up NOT to lose.
I believe?the?AB's?choked, IMHO.

Had the French managed a penalty or a dropped goal, Tongans would never let us forget... 'They' beat the French, and by more than 1 point.
I'm confident we were/are better than this froggy team by a lot more than the winning margin. Roll on 2015 ;)


We beat that French team by 20 points, we also beat Tonga by 31. The truth is by the time of the grand final both teams had a very different line up, we didn't have a full time goal kicker and therefore missed out on a lot of?opportunities?to increase our lead. But in the end we won anyway. IMHO the French were the luckiest team ever in the history of RWC. They scraped through barely in the pool matches and just barely beat Wales in the semi's. Their luck ran out.


Teams also play a totally different type of game in the finals/semis. It is far more conservative play, as it is 'knockout' rugby at that stage.

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  Reply # 538413 27-Oct-2011 23:18
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Hobchild:
Evolbob:
networkn: Hi There!

Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

 


While it is good we finally won the WRC, I wholeheartedly agree with Dingbat, also the game could have gone either way in the last 10 minutes. A 1 point win is a lucky win.
The French showed up to win, we showed up NOT to lose.
I believe the AB's choked, IMHO.

Had the French managed a penalty or a dropped goal, Tongans would never let us forget... 'They' beat the French, and by more than 1 point.
I'm confident we were/are better than this froggy team by a lot more than the winning margin. Roll on 2015 ;)


We beat that French team by 20 points, we also beat Tonga by 31. The truth is by the time of the grand final both teams had a very different line up, we didn't have a full time goal kicker and therefore missed out on a lot of opportunities to increase our lead. But in the end we won anyway. IMHO the French were the luckiest team ever in the history of RWC. They scraped through barely in the pool matches and just barely beat Wales in the semi's. Their luck ran out.


we beat, they beat, he beats, who wins ...

if everything is on paper, we don't have a tournament. we say, ok ABs are the best, everyone else go home, turn on tv and watch CSI.

the nature of tournaments, is that the 'better team on the day' should score more points, and should therefore, win.

sometimes they don't because of very small errors like missing penalty kicks, dropping the ball in the 22, red cards, referee mistakes ... but sometimes teams play to the books to ensure they score more points than their opposition - these teams are called "filthy", "lucky", "froggy" etc

it's a bit like university exams. you can be the best physics student. but if you turn up to the exam and do your own thing, you won't get top marks if you don't write your steps, or write irrelevant stuff and waste time, etc, marks won't be awarded. so you are the best student, studied for 10 hours a day 7 days a week, but the guy who plays starcraft for 10 hours a day tops the paper. familiar?

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  Reply # 538414 27-Oct-2011 23:21
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Hobchild:
Evolbob:
networkn: Hi There!

Wow, I can't believe some people, apparently a few people have bailed up All Blacks to give them a hard time about an unacceptable win margin!

No pleasing some people, would have been nice for a wider scoreline, but seriously, we have the CUP!

One of the team said he would have preferred to have lost by 40 points than 1.

 


While it is good we finally won the WRC, I wholeheartedly agree with Dingbat, also the game could have gone either way in the last 10 minutes. A 1 point win is a lucky win.
The French showed up to win, we showed up NOT to lose.
I believe the AB's choked, IMHO.

Had the French managed a penalty or a dropped goal, Tongans would never let us forget... 'They' beat the French, and by more than 1 point.
I'm confident we were/are better than this froggy team by a lot more than the winning margin. Roll on 2015 ;)


We beat that French team by 20 points, we also beat Tonga by 31. The truth is by the time of the grand final both teams had a very different line up, we didn't have a full time goal kicker and therefore missed out on a lot of opportunities to increase our lead. But in the end we won anyway. IMHO the French were the luckiest team ever in the history of RWC. They scraped through barely in the pool matches and just barely beat Wales in the semi's. Their luck ran out.


we beat, they beat, he beats, who wins ...

if everything is on paper, we don't have a tournament. we say, ok ABs are the best, everyone else go home, turn on tv and watch CSI.

the nature of tournaments, is that the 'better team on the day' should score more points, and should therefore, win.

sometimes they don't because of very small errors like missing penalty kicks, dropping the ball in the 22, red cards, referee mistakes ... but sometimes teams play to the books to ensure they score more points than their opposition - these teams are called "filthy", "lucky", "froggy" etc

it's a bit like university exams. you can be the best physics student. but if you turn up to the exam and do your own thing, you won't get top marks if you don't write your steps, or write irrelevant stuff and waste time, etc, marks won't be awarded. so you are the best student, studied for 10 hours a day 7 days a week, but the guy who plays starcraft for 10 hours a day tops the paper. familiar?


Wow I read that and I have no idea what point you are making :)

 

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