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  Reply # 519548 11-Sep-2011 13:55
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mxpress:Christ, why the hell as a nation, are so many people such knockers of our own accomplishments? 


I've resisted saying anything in this thread, but I'll chime in here.

Speaking for myself, who really, really doesn't like Rugby - I don't consider being exceptional at getting a ball past some other guys anything to get too excited about, let alone get together with friends and talk about or feel proud of as a nation.




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  Reply # 519550 11-Sep-2011 13:58
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BurningBeard:
mxpress:Christ, why the hell as a nation, are so many people such knockers of our own accomplishments? 


I've resisted saying anything in this thread, but I'll chime in here.

Speaking for myself, who really, really doesn't like Rugby - I don't consider being exceptional at getting a ball past some other guys anything to get too excited about, let alone get together with friends and talk about or feel proud of as a nation.


So it's Rugby you don't like or sports in general? Javelin, Shotput and Discus seem equally pointless to me, however, it's amazing they can push themselves to that level of skill.

Perhaps you could try some antidepressants :)


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  Reply # 519553 11-Sep-2011 14:09
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BurningBeard:
Speaking for myself, who really, really doesn't like Rugby - I don't consider being exceptional at getting a ball past some other guys anything to get too excited about, let alone get together with friends and talk about or feel proud of as a nation.

A skeptical view no doubt......
But as others have said, it's not about the game it's about the moment. Doesn't really matter if it's a ball, a sailboat or an earthquake, you can't share the experience if you aren't prepared to either be part of it, or, try and understand why others are. 

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  Reply # 519556 11-Sep-2011 14:12
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oxnsox: or, try and understand why others are. 


I do understand it, and I leave them alone to do it. To each their own. 

Rugby is a non-issue with me. I carry on as if it doesn't exist.

It becomes an issue when people look at me funny when don't respond to rugby jibber-jabber in every day conversation.

oxnsox: Doesn't really matter if it's a ball, a sailboat or an earthquake, you can't share the experience if you aren't prepared to either be part of it


That's just it. I can't just go along an "get into" something just because everyone else is.

oxnsox: A skeptical view no doubt...... 


COMPLETELY irrelevant (seriously, why bring that up?)
I know loads of skeptics who are into sport, we even have a sports forum at the ASF. 




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  Reply # 519557 11-Sep-2011 14:12
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oxnsox: nicely put. I am a Rugby fan, though in the past I have shared some of these sentiments with the others, I guess I would be considered a convert, and I must admit I was anxious about the impact the event would have on travelling etc.. But someone else said to me, it's just 6 weeks in your lifetime, make the most of it, celebrate the experience.

At the end of the day, it's here, nothing you can do to change it, try and make the most of it, you never know, you might actually end up liking rugby a little more!

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  Reply # 519559 11-Sep-2011 14:22
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networkn: So it's Rugby you don't like or sports in general? Javelin, Shotput and Discus seem equally pointless to me, however, it's amazing they can push themselves to that level of skill.


I appreciate the level of skill, it is amazing. I could never do it myself (though I did throw a mean shot put as a teen).

I wouldn't say I don't like sports in general, but they just don't appeal to me. Rugby only stirs my vocal disinterest as a result of being treated like a grinch for not liking it, as if I put a deliberate effort into being contrary whenever it's brought up around me. 

Perhaps you could try some antidepressants :)


I did, but not for that.

Besides, isn't beer the medication of choice when it comes to making a room of barking drunken sweat-hogs tolerable? 




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  Reply # 519561 11-Sep-2011 14:25
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BurningBeard:
networkn: So it's Rugby you don't like or sports in general? Javelin, Shotput and Discus seem equally pointless to me, however, it's amazing they can push themselves to that level of skill.


I appreciate the level of skill, it is amazing. I could never do it myself (though I did throw a mean shot put as a teen).

I wouldn't say I don't like sports in general, but they just don't appeal to me. Rugby only stirs my vocal disinterest as a result of being treated like a grinch for not liking it, as if I put a deliberate effort into being contrary whenever it's brought up around me. 

Perhaps you could try some antidepressants :)


I did, but not for that.

Besides, isn't beer the medication of choice when it comes to making a room of barking drunken sweat-hogs tolerable? 


I wouldn't know, I don't drink! :)

I don't think you need to be a sports fan to appreciate the world cup, there is plenty happening as a result you could still enjoy. It's been a pretty grim few years for the world, this is a chance to enjoy festivities!

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  Reply # 519565 11-Sep-2011 14:31
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I guess geeks don't like rugby .That makes sense though --most geeks would prefer to play 18 hour quake sessions than watch real-life sports and that is being borne out here in various postings. Thats why they're called geeks. And , fair enough, people like different things. Be boring otherwise.

However,I've been looking forward to the RWC for ages, and finding the wall-to-wall rugby absolutely fantastic.

I wanna see Russia vs USA later this week .

My only gripe is that it would be nice to see condensed games on one of the sky sports channels.

Minor games would be nice to watch without all the guff such as scrum setting, lineouts, injury times etc. I reckon they could condense a game into a half hour quick view.

For big games, I wanna see it all, including the most important post match interviews .



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  Reply # 519573 11-Sep-2011 15:14
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networkn:
alasta:
ajw: Isn't the NZ taxpayer obligated to bank roll team NZ up to $38 million another gigantic waste of money.


Agreed, but it scores votes and that's what's important. 


Umm well.. if it scores votes, then you are obviously missing the point that people want it here and they want the govt spending the money on it. If it was a big problem for the country then people wouldn't vote for politicians that agreed to financial packages for sporting events. Clearly you are outvoted!


Try telling that to all those people who want to be able to smack their children. 

You're right, though - there's nothing I can do other than complain to my MP which I've already done so I may as well just ignore the whole thing and leave you guys to enjoy it. Since it's now a sunk cost those who are interested in it may as well make the most of it but I do object to anyone telling me that I should be participating in something that is of absolutely no interest to me.

Each to their own. 

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  Reply # 519595 11-Sep-2011 16:06
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alasta:
networkn:
alasta:
ajw: Isn't the NZ taxpayer obligated to bank roll team NZ up to $38 million another gigantic waste of money.


Agreed, but it scores votes and that's what's important. 


Umm well.. if it scores votes, then you are obviously missing the point that people want it here and they want the govt spending the money on it. If it was a big problem for the country then people wouldn't vote for politicians that agreed to financial packages for sporting events. Clearly you are outvoted!


Try telling that to all those people who want to be able to smack their children. 

You're right, though - there's nothing I can do other than complain to my MP which I've already done so I may as well just ignore the whole thing and leave you guys to enjoy it. Since it's now a sunk cost those who are interested in it may as well make the most of it but I do object to anyone telling me that I should be participating in something that is of absolutely no interest to me.

Each to their own. 


LOL You complained to your MP? WOW! You need a hobby old chap!

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  Reply # 519619 11-Sep-2011 17:46
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Obviously some people do not give a damn at how much  the government borrows to balance the books. I do and it's all got to be paid back with interest.

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I normally don't really care about rugby. But I think this World Cup looks like it's going to be awesome for New Zealand.

Sure there'll be people whinging about the trains, and of course it could have been done better. But it's great that so many people turned up to the cramped Quay Street to welcome the RWC. People are getting into it, and it's restored my faith in the country.

I think of the RWC analogous to a person throwing a party. Sure it's an expense, but so is buying an artwork for your wall or buying that new graphics card, and at least this is a social thing. There's no point in living if we merely exist to save money or spend it on purely utilitarian needs.

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  Reply # 519631 11-Sep-2011 18:04
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The game last night between argentina and the new all black team (england) was really good and enjoyable and close. I suspect the opening game of the WC was son poor, was due to the organisiers wanting to get as much money out of the games as possible, as an allblacks france game would sell out, whether that was an opening ceremony game or not. A game against tonga however probably wouldn't normally sell out unless it was bundled with the opening ceremony.

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  Reply # 519800 12-Sep-2011 09:43
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The Rugby World What Now? Oh...that...right - Go Sports Team. Score Points.




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