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  # 1056239 29-May-2014 21:36
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mattwnz: This looks to now be the conclusion about the pings, and they likely didn't come from the black box at all.


Where did you get this information from?  I haven't seen anything that suggested this.  Are you saying they made up what they have said to have heard? There were two pingers detected, as would have been expected.  The frequencies detected were within the expected range allowing for battery voltage etc.

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joker97: Not so confident now are they

 Yeap, I still don't think they will find it in the near future. It will need technology advancements to find it I think. Not unless some wreckage washes up, or it actually crashed on land somewhere. It's going to be one of those great mysteries like 'Jack the ripper', what caused the 'titanic to sink' etc.


What are you calling the near future?

Don't forget they never heard the FDR or CVR pingers from the AF 447 flight yet they found the FDR and CVR from that crash. It took a year to do it but they found it.


I say they'll find MH 370 within a similar time frame as AF 447.

I'd say it's normal practice to review what they've done and where they've searched in any search like this to makes sure they haven't missed the obvious or made a totally wrong assumption.  I don't see it a review as admission they have it all wrong or have no idea where it is, I see it as a common sense thing to do.




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Technofreak:
mattwnz: This looks to now be the conclusion about the pings, and they likely didn't come from the black box at all.


Where did you get this information from?  I haven't seen anything that suggested this.  Are you saying they made up what they have said to have heard? There were two pingers detected, as would have been expected.  The frequencies detected were within the expected range allowing for battery voltage etc.

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joker97: Not so confident now are they

 Yeap, I still don't think they will find it in the near future. It will need technology advancements to find it I think. Not unless some wreckage washes up, or it actually crashed on land somewhere. It's going to be one of those great mysteries like 'Jack the ripper', what caused the 'titanic to sink' etc.


What are you calling the near future?

Don't forget they never heard the FDR or CVR pingers from the AF 447 flight yet they found the FDR and CVR from that crash. It took a year to do it but they found it.


I say they'll find MH 370 within a similar time frame as AF 447.

I'd say it's normal practice to review what they've done and where they've searched in any search like this to makes sure they haven't missed the obvious or made a totally wrong assumption.  I don't see it a review as admission they have it all wrong or have no idea where it is, I see it as a common sense thing to do.


From what I read on CNN alerts, the pings did not come from MH370, and they have discounted the search area as the resting place. Back to day one, no evidence, and no indication of where to look. Yes, I agree they find find it eventually

 
 
 
 


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  # 1056247 29-May-2014 21:58
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unless someone doesn't want it found.




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  # 1056310 29-May-2014 23:05
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A roundup of 17 MH370 conspiracy theories

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-17-conspiracy-theories-3620032

Flying in the radar shadow of another aircraft as it went over Afghanistan?

All of them seem very unlikely.

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  # 1056317 29-May-2014 23:19
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Technofreak:
mattwnz: This looks to now be the conclusion about the pings, and they likely didn't come from the black box at all.


Where did you get this information from?  I haven't seen anything that suggested this.  Are you saying they made up what they have said to have heard? There were two pingers detected, as would have been expected.  The frequencies detected were within the expected range allowing for battery voltage etc.

mattwnz:
joker97: Not so confident now are they

 Yeap, I still don't think they will find it in the near future. It will need technology advancements to find it I think. Not unless some wreckage washes up, or it actually crashed on land somewhere. It's going to be one of those great mysteries like 'Jack the ripper', what caused the 'titanic to sink' etc.


What are you calling the near future?

Don't forget they never heard the FDR or CVR pingers from the AF 447 flight yet they found the FDR and CVR from that crash. It took a year to do it but they found it.


I say they'll find MH 370 within a similar time frame as AF 447.

I'd say it's normal practice to review what they've done and where they've searched in any search like this to makes sure they haven't missed the obvious or made a totally wrong assumption.  I don't see it a review as admission they have it all wrong or have no idea where it is, I see it as a common sense thing to do.


It's been all over the news. The major difference between this and the Air France one, is that they had a rough location of the black box, as they had the wreakage. But the experts are now even saying that on looking at the data, it could have gone either north or south. There is no evidence that it is even under water.  I think the near future is within the next 10 years, unless of course some physical evidence turns up, that may help pinpoint the location. I think that it however will be found a lot sooner if it is faound to have crashed on land somewhere.

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  # 1065418 14-Jun-2014 11:35
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anyone knows what these guys' conclusion is/are?

i'm guessing the pilot or co-pilot




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joker97: anyone knows what these guys' conclusion is/are?

i'm guessing the pilot or co-pilot


I'm guessing whatever they think will make them the most $$$$$

 
 
 
 


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joker97: anyone knows what these guys' conclusion is/are?


There conclusion is that, if they can get enough publicity and spit out any kind of book real quick, they can milk this disaster for some cash, just like the MH370 movie being made. Worst case, they've already had an all-expenses-paid trip to Malaysia out of it. It's win-win!

Oh, sorry, you meant what will they say happened to the plane?

It'll be a bunch of '... could have... ', '...perhaps...', '... no evidence to contradict...'  fluff and supposition leading to some kind of bizarre conclusion that is completely unverifiable, including a covered-up international cover-up that links the CIA to the Indonesian military and Al Qaeda, tarted up with feel-good snippets about war veterans returning home, nuns going to feed starving children, star-crossed lovers, and a troubled teen who has turned his life around to start a new life as a rock star in Beijing.

Or maybe...
Still craving for the love of his life, Zaharie Ahmad Shah arranges to be on a flight with Elaine, who is working on as a member of the cabin crew. Elaine doesn't want to be with Zaharie anymore, but when the crew and passengers fall ill from food poisoning, all eyes are on Elaine. Surely the only person capable of landing the plane is an ex-pilot afraid to fly. But don't call her Shirley.



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  # 1065579 14-Jun-2014 15:13
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Ah I see. Fiction you reckon.




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  # 1065591 14-Jun-2014 15:31
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I think it is bad taste. Sure the families aren't happy. There has been at least one other book published too, by a UK author I believe which I don't think really helps either.

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  # 1065608 14-Jun-2014 16:04
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If its a well reasoned narritive from credible folk who had acess to good information it can't be a bad thing.
Theres plenty of speculative misinformation across the web that does more harm to families and friends holding out for reason

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oxnsox: If its a well reasoned narritive from credible folk who had acess to good information it can't be a bad thing.
Theres plenty of speculative misinformation across the web that does more harm to families and friends holding out for reason


Even if it's well-reasoned, unless they have a lot of information that hasn't been publicly available, much of it must still be speculation, and thus is likely to be misinformation. What do you think will happen if the book implies it was one of the crew who caused it, when some angry family member of a victim, with violent tendencies, finds out? Now, I have no idea on what they say in the book, and if they make it quite clear that it's speculation and guessing, cool. But, I just feel it's still a situation that could lead to further tragedy if it's not done right.

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oxnsox: If its a well reasoned narritive from credible folk who had acess to good information it can't be a bad thing.
Theres plenty of speculative misinformation across the web that does more harm to families and friends holding out for reason


I wouldn't't consider one of the authors as being credible.

Great headlines though, I wonder if any other authors would be given such a promotional article if they didn't write for the said newspaper.




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  # 1065665 14-Jun-2014 18:08
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Can someone enlighten me on what could the govt be"hiding" from the victims?




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joker97: anyone knows what these guys' conclusion is/are?


There conclusion is that, if they can get enough publicity and spit out any kind of book real quick, they can milk this disaster for some cash, just like the MH370 movie being made. Worst case, they've already had an all-expenses-paid trip to Malaysia out of it. It's win-win!.......



I'm afraid Mr Wilson and his editor friend don't have the slightest clue where MH370 is, and it wouldn't be the first time he's spoken out about things he knows nothing about. We all know that no one knows.
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