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  Reply # 1091494 18-Jul-2014 15:44
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mattwnz: I find it intriguing that this is same airline that previously lost an aircraft in an unexplained way which is now the biggest aviation mystery, and only a few months after that, this has happened.  What are the odds of that? The only difference appears that this one crashed on land, so the wreckage has been found. Also apparently there were no alerts from the plane to say it had problems, which was the same as with their lost plane. If it had been shot you would expect something, unless it struck in the nose of the plane. I think something odd is going on. If this has been shot down, I think the odds of the other being shot down can't be ruled out.

If it has been shot down, you do have to wonder why they allow them to fly over airspace where conflicts are occurring. You only need some Nutter to do something stupid.


Look at flightradar24, the two main corridors that the airlines are using now for Asia:

1) Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Oman    -  One word:  ISIS

2) (to a much lesser extent especially at this hour - 2 hours ago it seemed busier) Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India     -  (A tiny bit of history with the Pakistan/India border, and of course... Afghanistan...)

I think if you talked to the operators, it's all a case of risk vs reward (extremely small chance of getting shot down, vs saving mega mega mega bucks in fuel, i.e. they save more in fuel than the increased insurance premiums).

Yeah I would like to know what is going on with the airlines. I suspect it is a case of willful ignorance while looking at each other to make the first move. Not good enough. You mentioned Syria. Syrian rebels (ISIL or not don't know) have documented their possession and use of ex-Syrian high altitude missile systems. That has to be a high risk.

That said like most people I have no knowledge of the exact route.

Would anyone risk their family for $100 less airfare? No.



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  Reply # 1091505 18-Jul-2014 15:54
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Looks like touching distance to bankruptcy

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1091507 18-Jul-2014 15:56
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joker97: Looks like touching distance to bankruptcy


Malaysia airlines almost out of the game you reckon?




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  Reply # 1091510 18-Jul-2014 15:59
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I have nothing personal against any airline, but it seems tragedy have struck twice while they were having financial troubles. Very traffic on many counts and fronts



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  Reply # 1091512 18-Jul-2014 16:00
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Anyone heard from the persistently mute PM of Malaysia? Is his minister going to front the world again?

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  Reply # 1091518 18-Jul-2014 16:07
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joker97: Anyone heard from the persistently mute PM of Malaysia? Is his minister going to front the world again?


Been waiting by my phone all day, but no call yet.



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  Reply # 1091523 18-Jul-2014 16:16
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Ah yes I guess it depended on other news publishing it.

Found a couple of lines of pm najib statement somewhere in cnn. He is requesting full access for investigators.

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  Reply # 1091549 18-Jul-2014 16:41
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Yabanize: MH17 passenger posts chilling photo before flight

It's not that plane http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/10281474/MH17-crash-Confusion-over-viral-photo

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  Reply # 1091668 18-Jul-2014 19:04
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nigelj:

How well informed are people really? If you gave me options, the two I gave in my above post, and hugging the Ukraine/Russia border, I'd likely select the Ukraine/Russia border out of ignorance of just how bad things are getting there, yet we have a fair idea of just how bad things are getting with ISIS/etc.   (Just sayin')



Yes I think many people over here aren't really aware of what is going on in the conflict over there, as the NZ media doesn't report on it much. It does seem like double standards that so much care is taken with people boarding the craft that they may pose a security risk. For example you can't even take a bottle of water in that is in a bottle over a certain size, as it could be turned into a bomb. Yet they then fly the aircraft over a conflict zone, where they have have missiles pointing into the air. Just seems like double standards. Obviously they now know they were wrong to fly over such zones, but it takes a tragedy to see the problem.

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  Reply # 1091690 18-Jul-2014 19:42
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nigelj:

How well informed are people really? If you gave me options, the two I gave in my above post, and hugging the Ukraine/Russia border, I'd likely select the Ukraine/Russia border out of ignorance of just how bad things are getting there, yet we have a fair idea of just how bad things are getting with ISIS/etc.   (Just sayin')



Yes I think many people over here aren't really aware of what is going on in the conflict over there, as the NZ media doesn't report on it much. It does seem like double standards that so much care is taken with people boarding the craft that they may pose a security risk. For example you can't even take a bottle of water in that is in a bottle over a certain size, as it could be turned into a bomb. Yet they then fly the aircraft over a conflict zone, where they have have missiles pointing into the air. Just seems like double standards. Obviously they now know they were wrong to fly over such zones, but it takes a tragedy to see the problem.


If you want a non-partisan news source with a human aspect so often lacking in today's media I recommend Vice News.



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  Reply # 1091701 18-Jul-2014 19:58
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joker97: Anyone heard from the persistently mute PM of Malaysia? Is his minister going to front the world again?

Where have you been?
He has been on TV/Internet since soon after the news broke - he has obviously learned from his last public relations fiasco.




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