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  # 1355673 31-Jul-2015 08:29
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Thing is, finding the stuff at the notion of the ocean and what they look like, how they're spread, will give lots more information than we have now. They may not be able to prove anything but the answer will be pretty clear




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  # 1355674 31-Jul-2015 08:30
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And I think the fdr records six hours or something. Will tell who/what was in control




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  # 1355699 31-Jul-2015 09:01
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Jaxson:
alasta: The question is whether they will ever find the black boxes and, in the unlikely event that they do, will they provide any useful information


Yeah info I read way back at the start suggested some of these, especially the cabin voice recorder etc, are on a 2 hour cycle only, so there is a good chance they'll have a lot of silence only...


The location of this wreckage isn't likely to be very useful in locating the black boxes - except perhaps to motivate continued search.  It's not going to narrow down the search area, just eliminate possibility it went down elsewhere, far south or north of the original search area.  The size of that part might be indication that the plane was ditched and under pilot control - if it was under autopilot and at cruise until it ran out of fuel, then it would have probably hit the water so hard that pieces that size would have been shredded.  Possible that the flaperon was extended at the time so torn off during a controlled ditching at sea.  They can deduce many things about the final impact just from looking at that one part.
Even if they can't locate the black boxes and/or they don't contain the answers, there might be cellphones etc on the bottom of the sea with recoverable data recorded on them.

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  # 1355744 31-Jul-2015 09:56
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They are sending the parts to France to investigate and see if they are indeed the parts from MH370, but holy crapsticks, SURELY confirmation is as simple as this: 

Investigator to person who found aircraft bits: 

"Please read out the numbers on the part you found"

"sure, they are xxxx.xxxx-xxx"

Investigator types numbers into registered part list: 

"I can confirm this part belongs to MH370" or "I can confirm this is not MH370 but rather xxx"

Doesn't solve the mystery, doesn't 100% prove it, but makes then able to give a 95% likely confirmation.

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  # 1355749 31-Jul-2015 10:04
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The purported debris may have been planted by the individuals who took MH370 to make it seem like it crashed into the Indian ocean.




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  # 1355763 31-Jul-2015 10:11
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Dulouz: The purported debris may have been planted by the individuals who took MH370 to make it seem like it crashed into the Indian ocean.


Yes, anything is possible I guess. Still...

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  # 1355843 31-Jul-2015 11:17
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Dulouz: The purported debris may have been planted by the individuals who took MH370 to make it seem like it crashed into the Indian ocean.


I'm sure it is very easy to tell if the bit's been floating in the ocean for 18 months or 1 week, and whether it was removed by a welder, a hydraulic machine, a bomb, or ripped by natural forces.




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  # 1355847 31-Jul-2015 11:19
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and if it was taken into the ocean, I expect more bits to be found over time, showing the same things. but finding out what actually happen will be by chance, a lot of luck, or praying to the ocean to give it up.




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  # 1355858 31-Jul-2015 11:24
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Dulouz: The purported debris may have been planted by the individuals who took MH370 to make it seem like it crashed into the Indian ocean.


looks like someone's on to it http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11489770




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  # 1355907 31-Jul-2015 11:52
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networkn: They are sending the parts to France to investigate and see if they are indeed the parts from MH370, but holy crapsticks, SURELY confirmation is as simple as this: 

Investigator to person who found aircraft bits: 

"Please read out the numbers on the part you found"

"sure, they are xxxx.xxxx-xxx"

Investigator types numbers into registered part list: 

"I can confirm this part belongs to MH370" or "I can confirm this is not MH370 but rather xxx"

Doesn't solve the mystery, doesn't 100% prove it, but makes then able to give a 95% likely confirmation.


apparently someone's done that now http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/30/world/mh370-debris-investigation/index.html




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  # 1356966 2-Aug-2015 09:09
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How does Stuff get away with this

The headline is not what the article said.

 

MH370: Debris 'definitely' from lost flight, says Malaysia Airlines

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  # 1356976 2-Aug-2015 09:35
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tdgeek: How does Stuff get away with this

The headline is not what the article said.
MH370: Debris 'definitely' from lost flight, says Malaysia Airlines


Stuff is essentially a tabloid now, but they purport themselves as a reputable source of news. I wish there was a place to report such crap reporting.

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joker97: there is only one possible cause - pilot, co-pilot.
the more likely was the pilot who did it. very very intricately plotted.


I'm not sure how you can be so sure.  I'm pleased people with preconceived ideas like this are not employed as accident investigators.

Until they find and analyse the FDR and CVR we will never know.  Even with the the FDR and CVR there may be be no certainty.

Unlike the German Wings crash there has been no concrete evidence that either flight crew member had a reason to to this. I'm not saying they didn't do it, but there's been no other solid evidence to indicate they might have. In most "suicide" crashes there has been strong corroborating evidence from somewhere in the pilots background.




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  # 1357018 2-Aug-2015 11:00
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Yes that's true. But we have facts and we can make some deductions

Fact
1. Plane had everything disabled, changed course, flew across the Malaysian peninsular in a specific course. These all happened right after goodnight Malaysian 370.

Deduction
1. Someone turned off everything
2. Someone was in control of the plane
3. No one attempted any distress call.

Who could cause all 3 to happen?




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  # 1357022 2-Aug-2015 11:07
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Assuming fact 2 is proven in the week, that is a 777 is in the Indian ocean, and only one ever 777 is not accounted for.

Deduction
1. MH370 did end up in the Indian ocean, not Pakistan, Kazakhstan, or someone's backyard.
2. Someone did all 3 of the above, and took them into the Indian ocean.

Who could have done that?




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