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#222477 13-Aug-2017 20:12
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Mine has to be via the Persian Gulf. Admittedly a 16-17+ hour non stop flight to Dubai or Doha before the 7-8 hour onward. But manageable in all classes of travel if you do it the right way.


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  #1846025 13-Aug-2017 20:12
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  #1846029 13-Aug-2017 20:15
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I always used to go via Asia. The last way you want to do it is through America.

 

 





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Tried via Doha last time and they Qatar airways was excellent.





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  #1846034 13-Aug-2017 20:19
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Heading north. tongue-out


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  #1846035 13-Aug-2017 20:23
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Don't go via Shanghai I did it a few weeks back and talk about a mickey mouse transit process...nightmare

Gone Dubai way twice in last 12 months and much better

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Only way I'll ever fly by choice is East via North America. Heading West is horrible for flight times and time zone changes.

 

Head via the US or Canada and you get great flight times and time zone changes that are perfect for rest or sleep.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Go via Singapore every time I go to uk, almost half way and Singapore is great for a break for a few days

 
 
 
 


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  #1846049 13-Aug-2017 21:20
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I love going via Singapore when I head home to the UK, quick stop over with shower and good walk through the airport and then zip on to the next flight!


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sbiddle:

 

Only way I'll ever fly by choice is East via North America. Heading West is horrible for flight times and time zone changes.

 

Head via the US or Canada and you get great flight times and time zone changes that are perfect for rest or sleep.

 

 

 

 

Maybe things have changed but America used to have to worst service, most uncomfortable facilities and most unpleasant officials I have ever had the misfortune of encountering. Compared to that, any Asian airline or airport outside of China was an oasis of enlightened charm and helpfulness.

 

 





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We've been to London twice with Cathay Pacific via Hong Kong. They have one of the 1st landings at Heathrow in the morning. The terminals look empty with only 300-500 people around.

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  #1846116 14-Aug-2017 07:11
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Rikkitic:

 

sbiddle:

 

Only way I'll ever fly by choice is East via North America. Heading West is horrible for flight times and time zone changes.

 

Head via the US or Canada and you get great flight times and time zone changes that are perfect for rest or sleep.

 

 

 

 

Maybe things have changed but America used to have to worst service, most uncomfortable facilities and most unpleasant officials I have ever had the misfortune of encountering. Compared to that, any Asian airline or airport outside of China was an oasis of enlightened charm and helpfulness.

 

 

 

 

LAX has facilities including lounges that are as good as anything you'd find in Asia. Service and officials are terrible. Both SFO and YVR are incresingly becoming popular places for transit because they're less busy.

 

None of this changes the fact that timezone and flight times are far better for this reason - I'll quite happily endure 75 mins of carnage transiting LAX transit because it's a far more enjoyable experience travelling west. There is plenty of evidence to back this up - the only times in my life I've ever been jet lagged have been on the multiple occasons I've flown to Europe via Asia, and for that reason I'd not something I'd do again by choice.

 

 

 

 


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sbiddle: it's a far more enjoyable experience travelling west. There is plenty of evidence to back this up - the only times in my life I've ever been jet lagged have been on the multiple occasons I've flown to Europe via Asia, and for that reason I'd not something I'd do again by choice.




Your argument starts ok it agrees with a Lancet article "In general, adjustment to the new time zone is easier for east–west travel than for west–east. A westward adjustment takes, in days, approximately half the number of time zones crossed; for eastward travel, adjusting to the new time zone takes, in days, approximately two-thirds the number of time zones crossed." but NZ to US travel is East not West.

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  #1846174 14-Aug-2017 09:49
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Either Hong Kong or Singapore. Book a day room at the in-airport hotel and have a shower and decompress with a stroll around the in-airport shops. Better than the lounges I reckon.

 

 


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sbiddle: 

 

LAX has facilities including lounges that are as good as anything you'd find in Asia. Service and officials are terrible. Both SFO and YVR are incresingly becoming popular places for transit because they're less busy.

 

 

 

 

The last time I went through LAX (a long time ago, fortunately) all transit passengers were herded by snarling officials into an airless, windowless, unserviced, overcrowded room where they were forced to wait and breathe each other's stink for six hours. After that I swore I would never pass through the USA again, and I haven't. I'll take jet lag any time over that, though jet lag has never been an issue for me.

 

 





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I always prefer to go east both ways.  Arrival times are usually more civilised and with the prevailing high altitude winds you save about 1 hour per trip.

 

LAX kinda sucks, have missed loads of connections there even when flying an airline-provided itinerary.  You either need to be on NZ1/NZ2 connecting straight through, or allow at least 5 hours connection time.  SFO and YVR airports are generally much nicer to connect through, in my experience.  Home via Singapore is probably my favourite; did Shanghai recently and the queuing was almost as bad as LAX, and facilities in the terminal quite limited.

 

Travelling with family I usually try to do a 48-hour stopover to recuperate and experience new places - I've done NZ-Europe return over 20 times and it started to bug me that I had never seen the places in between.  Vancouver is great for a family stop, we also enjoyed San Fran including the bike ride over the bridge.


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