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  Reply # 2000353 21-Apr-2018 16:52
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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-engine-fix-on-176-boeing-787s/   This is the detail about the GE engine problem. Luckily in this case they had one of older engines and one of the newer type when it happened. All fixed now of course.


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  Reply # 2000394 21-Apr-2018 18:49
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amiga500:

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-engine-fix-on-176-boeing-787s/   This is the detail about the GE engine problem. Luckily in this case they had one of older engines and one of the newer type when it happened. All fixed now of course.

 

 

according to the news Air NZ ones are being grounded because metal fatigue was detected in the turbine blades or something


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  Reply # 2000396 21-Apr-2018 18:51
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Batman:

 

amiga500:

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-engine-fix-on-176-boeing-787s/   This is the detail about the GE engine problem. Luckily in this case they had one of older engines and one of the newer type when it happened. All fixed now of course.

 

 

according to the news Air NZ ones are being grounded because metal fatigue was detected in the turbine blades or something

 

 

A380, bit's fell off. Last time the Concorde was here, bits fell off. 


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  Reply # 2000470 21-Apr-2018 21:52
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Batman:

 

Linux:
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are our modern way of designing things with computers inferior to the olden ways of designing things without computers? things just don't seem to last very long!

 



@Batman are you kidding?

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the 787 is barely a year or two old!

 

 

look at how many cars are being recalled with air bag issues at the moment, or what ever other issues they have, no difference really.


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  Reply # 2000521 22-Apr-2018 08:43
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tdgeek:

 

Last time the Concorde was here, bits fell off. 

 

 

That happened quite often:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2541405.stm

 

But wait there's more - so at least 6 times.

 

Not sure if that was the last time Concorde was in NZ, I was living in Sydney when part of a Concorde fell off on the flight from Chch in 1989.  Concordes arrived in Chch on charter flights once or twice more when I was in Chch in the early '90s. 


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Batman:

 

are our modern way of designing things with computers inferior to the olden ways of designing things without computers? things just don't seem to last very long!

 

 

I don't think it's the method of design I believe it's the brief for design. The aircraft manufacturing industry like others is very competitive and there is a constant demand to bring prices down. 

 

 

These issues are nothing to do with price. They're all related to performance. Airlines will happily pay more up front if they can save money over the long term.

 

The 787 was sold promising pretty impressive efficiency gains over existing aircraft. Achieving those figures and designing engines to improve fuel efficiency meant the move to making things lighter and thinner which in turn is pushing our knowledge of metallurgy to the limit - with those limits quite possibly now being exceeded.

 

 


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Ok innovation with trial and error. I see that makes sense. Continuous innovations with continuous trials and errors then. Makes sense.

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  Reply # 2000677 22-Apr-2018 15:28
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Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

Last time the Concorde was here, bits fell off. 

 

 

That happened quite often:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2541405.stm

 

But wait there's more - so at least 6 times.

 

Not sure if that was the last time Concorde was in NZ, I was living in Sydney when part of a Concorde fell off on the flight from Chch in 1989.  Concordes arrived in Chch on charter flights once or twice more when I was in Chch in the early '90s. 

 


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I saw a Concorde at CHC in 1999.  I remember because I had just dropped my car at Craddocks car parking, and was walking over to the terminal before leaving on a holiday. I remember thinking to myself that I won't be going on that one!


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  Reply # 2000699 22-Apr-2018 16:37
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As expected, HiFly on the way again

 

More Airpoints Refunds

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12037430 


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  Reply # 2000753 22-Apr-2018 19:19
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Linux:
Batman:

 

are our modern way of designing things with computers inferior to the olden ways of designing things without computers? things just don't seem to last very long!

 



@Batman are you kidding?

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Quite possibly Batman. Have you ever had your phone call enquiry answered by todays technology quicker and more effectively than the way we used to connect with people by phone before it was taken over by technology? I suspect the answer is No, 9 times out of 10.


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sbiddle:

MikeB4:


Batman:


are our modern way of designing things with computers inferior to the olden ways of designing things without computers? things just don't seem to last very long!



I don't think it's the method of design I believe it's the brief for design. The aircraft manufacturing industry like others is very competitive and there is a constant demand to bring prices down. 



These issues are nothing to do with price. They're all related to performance. Airlines will happily pay more up front if they can save money over the long term.


The 787 was sold promising pretty impressive efficiency gains over existing aircraft. Achieving those figures and designing engines to improve fuel efficiency meant the move to making things lighter and thinner which in turn is pushing our knowledge of metallurgy to the limit - with those limits quite possibly now being exceeded.


 



Price, TCO and bottom line are constant bed fellows so these issues are related to price.




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um.... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12037818


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noroad:

 

um.... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12037818

 

 

I was about to post this with 'you want sensationalism..' 

 

Its the interior cover by the looks. No window break, no decompression


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Oblivian:

 

noroad:

 

um.... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12037818

 

 

I was about to post this with 'you want sensationalism..' 

 

Its the interior cover by the looks. No window break, no decompression

 

 

Can't expect much more from the Daily Mail NZ Edition.

 

 


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