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  #1025520 15-Apr-2014 12:34
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nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??




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  #1025523 15-Apr-2014 12:39
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I guess after this tour is finished all the organizers will be holding out their hands for a royal honor on Queens birthday weekend..




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  #1025536 15-Apr-2014 12:59
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Unfortunately, the royals were invited here by our Govt to have a very nice holiday at our expense, in return for opening a couple of buildings, patronising a few peasants, providing some free PR, and such-like duties.

Whilst to most of us this is a waste of money, from the Govt's point of view it is a great investment because they believe that a feel-good royal tour will win them votes.

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  #1025538 15-Apr-2014 13:06
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old3eyes:
nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??


That republic arguement is ludicrious.

Becomming a republic solves nothing and would be stupidly expensive, at the best you just replace one Figurehead Head of State with another. At the worst you end up with a deadlocked democratic system like the states.

The constatutional monarchy we have right now is one of the better systems out there at the moment it offers a wide representation and is mostly transparent.

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  #1025540 15-Apr-2014 13:08
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frankv: Unfortunately, the royals were invited here by our Govt to have a very nice holiday at our expense, in return for opening a couple of buildings, patronising a few peasants, providing some free PR, and such-like duties.

Whilst to most of us this is a waste of money, from the Govt's point of view it is a great investment because they believe that a feel-good royal tour will win them votes.


We spend more per week dealing with the results of the binge drinking than what was invested in the tour.




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  #1025608 15-Apr-2014 14:46
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They are here at our cost because they are representing our head of state (the Queen)...

If you don't like that - don't take it out on them… You need to look at how our Government is put together and make some changes to remove them from that post… Until then - we live with it...

Did you know (side note) that internationally the people googling about coming to New Zealand has increased 150% while they have been here… Could be a good investment from that point of view...

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  #1025609 15-Apr-2014 14:47
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Lazarui:
old3eyes:
nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??


That republic arguement is ludicrious.

Becomming a republic solves nothing and would be stupidly expensive, at the best you just replace one Figurehead Head of State with another. At the worst you end up with a deadlocked democratic system like the states.

The constatutional monarchy we have right now is one of the better systems out there at the moment it offers a wide representation and is mostly transparent.


I invite anyone who thinks becoming a republic is a good idea to tell me who they'd suggest for President… That seems to be a problem...

 
 
 
 


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  #1025613 15-Apr-2014 14:54
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I don't know about who could be President, but if somehow Prince Harry was to become King, can you imagine the inauguration party? That'd be worth every tax payer cent spent on it

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  #1025620 15-Apr-2014 15:03
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DaveDog:
Lazarui:
old3eyes:
nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??


That republic arguement is ludicrious.

Becomming a republic solves nothing and would be stupidly expensive, at the best you just replace one Figurehead Head of State with another. At the worst you end up with a deadlocked democratic system like the states.

The constatutional monarchy we have right now is one of the better systems out there at the moment it offers a wide representation and is mostly transparent.


I invite anyone who thinks becoming a republic is a good idea to tell me who they'd suggest for President… That seems to be a problem...


How about instead or a Republic, NZ becomes a Meritocracy?




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  #1025625 15-Apr-2014 15:24
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sen8or: I don't know about who could be President, but if somehow Prince Harry was to become King, can you imagine the inauguration party? That'd be worth every tax payer cent spent on it

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  #1025629 15-Apr-2014 15:28
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charsleysa:
DaveDog:
Lazarui:
old3eyes:
nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??


That republic arguement is ludicrious.

Becomming a republic solves nothing and would be stupidly expensive, at the best you just replace one Figurehead Head of State with another. At the worst you end up with a deadlocked democratic system like the states.

The constatutional monarchy we have right now is one of the better systems out there at the moment it offers a wide representation and is mostly transparent.


I invite anyone who thinks becoming a republic is a good idea to tell me who they'd suggest for President… That seems to be a problem...


How about instead or a Republic, NZ becomes a Meritocracy?

Pretty simple. We become a republic without a president. We really don't need one of those elected or not. Aside from a good idea or not it seems inevitable so it should be given some thought about exactly how.

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gzt:
charsleysa:
DaveDog:
Lazarui:
old3eyes:
nathan:
charsleysa:
gzt: Is anyone else sickened by the whole circus? I just find it so ridiculous.

I would mind a lot less if they were celebrities and not only because they would be paying for their own holiday.

The sad reality is they are here as representatives of New Zealand's head of state The Queen and therefore hosted at the expense of the state. The constitutional arrangements I find far less objectionable than this horrible charade. Ban it.


Good luck! Your best bet is for NZ to become a republic.


Then we get presidential politics


Isn't that what we get now??


That republic arguement is ludicrious.

Becomming a republic solves nothing and would be stupidly expensive, at the best you just replace one Figurehead Head of State with another. At the worst you end up with a deadlocked democratic system like the states.

The constatutional monarchy we have right now is one of the better systems out there at the moment it offers a wide representation and is mostly transparent.


I invite anyone who thinks becoming a republic is a good idea to tell me who they'd suggest for President… That seems to be a problem...


How about instead or a Republic, NZ becomes a Meritocracy?

Pretty simple. We become a republic without a president. We really don't need one of those elected or not. Aside from a good idea or not it seems inevitable so it should be given some thought about exactly how.


But surely a Meritocracy would be better than a Republic without a president, we would have intelligent people at the top that have been vetted to make sure they suit the needs of their position.




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  #1025650 15-Apr-2014 15:50
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It's is a lot cheaper than having a president and all the rubbish that goes with that. I think we get get value out of the royal family, and this is shown by (a) all the coverage they are getting and (b) by all the people who are turning up to see them.

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  #1025653 15-Apr-2014 15:55
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Meritocracy ? No thanks,  IQ does not equal good sense or the ability to interact or any  leadership skills.

Basically a loopy idea




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  #1025654 15-Apr-2014 15:56
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KiwiNZ: Meritocracy ? No thanks,  IQ does not equal good sense or the ability to interact or any  leadership skills.

Basically a loopy idea


Ability to interact and leadership skills don't mean squat if you have no idea what you're doing.




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