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KiwiNZ: NZ would be a better place if Dotcom left and took Slater and Hager with him
networkn:BarTender:networkn: National don't really need to smear Labour, Labour seem intent on ensuring they aren't in power again (Thankfully) for a long time by simply opposing for the sake of it. They seem lost and confused and internally conflicted. Hardly who I consider reasonable to ru(i)n a country.
To be honest I expected better from you, not sure why but I did.
If you have been living in a country where the national dialogue has been directed via a few vicious bloggers that then gets picked up main stream media then it's quite easy to believe exactly what you have said. However if you actually try and read what's going on across the political divide you would see there is a very clear negative narrative going on lead by Slater. Something I have seen well before the book came out, however the book does clear up the depths it goes to.
Education is the best weapon against ignorance. You of all people I would have thought would understand that. Sadly I am wrong.
Me of all people? Do we know each other?
My claims re Labour aren't based on what "a few bloggers" have reported, it's based on what is coming directly from Labour themselves.
BarTender:networkn:BarTender:networkn: National don't really need to smear Labour, Labour seem intent on ensuring they aren't in power again (Thankfully) for a long time by simply opposing for the sake of it. They seem lost and confused and internally conflicted. Hardly who I consider reasonable to ru(i)n a country.
To be honest I expected better from you, not sure why but I did.
If you have been living in a country where the national dialogue has been directed via a few vicious bloggers that then gets picked up main stream media then it's quite easy to believe exactly what you have said. However if you actually try and read what's going on across the political divide you would see there is a very clear negative narrative going on lead by Slater. Something I have seen well before the book came out, however the book does clear up the depths it goes to.
Education is the best weapon against ignorance. You of all people I would have thought would understand that. Sadly I am wrong.
Me of all people? Do we know each other?
My claims re Labour aren't based on what "a few bloggers" have reported, it's based on what is coming directly from Labour themselves.
Lets not talk about National Debt, How the NZ Economy has been going, That the housing bubble in Auckland has been getting worse and affordability is unobtainable for the vast majority of people to name just a few. Plus our growing deprivation with the rise of 3rd world disease among our most vulnerable.
But everything is going in the right direction right?
BarTender:networkn:BarTender:networkn: National don't really need to smear Labour, Labour seem intent on ensuring they aren't in power again (Thankfully) for a long time by simply opposing for the sake of it. They seem lost and confused and internally conflicted. Hardly who I consider reasonable to ru(i)n a country.
To be honest I expected better from you, not sure why but I did.
If you have been living in a country where the national dialogue has been directed via a few vicious bloggers that then gets picked up main stream media then it's quite easy to believe exactly what you have said. However if you actually try and read what's going on across the political divide you would see there is a very clear negative narrative going on lead by Slater. Something I have seen well before the book came out, however the book does clear up the depths it goes to.
Education is the best weapon against ignorance. You of all people I would have thought would understand that. Sadly I am wrong.
Me of all people? Do we know each other?
My claims re Labour aren't based on what "a few bloggers" have reported, it's based on what is coming directly from Labour themselves.
Lets not talk about National Debt, How the NZ Economy has been going, That the housing bubble in Auckland has been getting worse and affordability is unobtainable for the vast majority of people to name just a few. Plus our growing deprivation with the rise of 3rd world disease among our most vulnerable.
In my view Bernard Hickey has it right that Personal Debt and climbing inflation are the biggest issue facing our country today, selling all the assets will just leave us all poorer now and well into the future.
But everything is going in the right direction right?
KiwiNZ: Both Hager and Slater and their ilk are trying to pervert the course of democracy by diverting attention from policies and candidate suitability.
The main importance of the book from my point of view is that it is a case study of how politics really works. How National Party politics works, but not only the National Party for some of it. And the reason I think that this is important is that, although we are lucky enough to live in a safe, stable democracy, we find many people, and especially younger people, dislike politics more and more. They dislike politicians, and don’t want to be involved -- leaving politics to the politicians, to the likes of Gerry Brownlee. This kind of discouragement and cynicism occurs for specific reasons. It’s a product of the way that people conduct politics. That’s the next huge value I see of people being exposed like this.
JWR:KiwiNZ: Both Hager and Slater and their ilk are trying to pervert the course of democracy by diverting attention from policies and candidate suitability.
No! Absolutely not!
networkn:JWR:KiwiNZ: Both Hager and Slater and their ilk are trying to pervert the course of democracy by diverting attention from policies and candidate suitability.
No! Absolutely not!
Really? In the last 7 days how much space has been provided or dedicated to discussing the parties policies or intentions after the next election? How many pages has this thread used to discuss the same? Attention is being diverted from these issues
and all anyone is talking about is this book and the issues surrounding it.
JWR:networkn:JWR:KiwiNZ: Both Hager and Slater and their ilk are trying to pervert the course of democracy by diverting attention from policies and candidate suitability.
No! Absolutely not!
Really? In the last 7 days how much space has been provided or dedicated to discussing the parties policies or intentions after the next election? How many pages has this thread used to discuss the same? Attention is being diverted from these issues
and all anyone is talking about is this book and the issues surrounding it.
I think it is very good that anyone is discussing anything relating to the election.
So many people didn't vote last time.
networkn:
You think this issue is going to make people MORE inclined to vote? I'd suggest based on conversations held people I know in the last few days, the opposite is actually true.
networkn:
You think this issue is going to make people MORE inclined to vote? I'd suggest based on conversations held people I know in the last few days, the opposite is actually true.
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