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  Reply # 1112001 20-Aug-2014 12:49
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I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?





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Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 

 
 
 
 


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Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.


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  Reply # 1112075 20-Aug-2014 13:27
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networkn:
Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.



Or even be bothered to read the book but feel more than qualified to comment on it.





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  Reply # 1112078 20-Aug-2014 13:31
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jonathan18:
networkn:
Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.



Or even be bothered to read the book but feel more than qualified to comment on it.


I've actually made no comment on the book itself. I have made comments related to how lowly I regard it's author, and about various things to do with how easy the data was to obtain, and comments related to how I feel that Labour are guilty of similar behaviour and how I believe they are unfit to lead. 

I won't be reading this book any time soon, largely because I have yet to see concrete proof to it's claims and because quite frankly I have significantly more important things to do for the next 6 weeks.


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  Reply # 1112082 20-Aug-2014 13:38
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networkn:
BarTender:
jonathan18:
networkn:
Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.
Or even be bothered to read the book but feel more than qualified to comment on it.
I've actually made no comment on the book itself. I have made comments related to how lowly I regard it's author, and about various things to do with how easy the data was to obtain, and comments related to how I feel that Labour are guilty of similar behaviour and how I believe they are unfit to lead. I won't be reading this book any time soon, largely because I have yet to see concrete proof to it's claims and because quite frankly I have significantly more important things to do for the next 6 weeks.


Collins was unwise to send the email.
Ede did access the labour site.

Both confirmations from John Key.

More to come on WhaleDump me thinks.

But continue to deny anything has been confirmed. That's fine





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  Reply # 1112147 20-Aug-2014 15:19
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networkn:
Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.



Yes indeed; I used to be a manager in one of those departments.

To extrapolate from your comment, they should also have employed experts to run the party site if they don't know anything about how to do it properly and securely, should they not?





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jonathan18:
networkn:
Geektastic: I saw one interesting comment about the Labour website 'hack' in a newspaper comments forum.

To precis: If they cannot even run a small political party website without concerning themselves about the security of it, would you want them in charge of government IT and all it entails?


HAHA yah ain't that the truth. To be fair even some of the most die hard Labour supporters I know,  right now, feel that Labour wouldn't be capable of running the country properly. 


HAHA nah that ain't the truth - yet again it's opinion masquerading as "truth" from two people that still can't manage to separate out their politics from any part of this topic.

Neither the Government nor the political parties that form that Government are expected to be experts in all areas - that's why they have Government departments that deliver specialised services, are responsible for employing such experts, and provide advice to Ministers.



Or even be bothered to read the book but feel more than qualified to comment on it.


I presume you do not mean to genuinely suggest that (a) every person in NZ commenting on the book has read it (or even intends to) and (b) only people who have read things can comment on them at all? If that is the new rule, we should certainly see a reduction in online comments on all subjects worldwide PDQ I would think.





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  Reply # 1112157 20-Aug-2014 15:25
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BarTender: https://twitter.com/whaledump/status/501911653316050945

Oh dear.


I've never claimed to be an IT expert, but just looking at that, what is there there to prove it wasn't just written using Word one evening after a few beers? 

(Note - this is a genuine question. The text I can see looks like something anyone could knock up like a TV screenplay and I can't see any way it proves itself to be authentic)





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Geektastic:
BarTender: https://twitter.com/whaledump/status/501911653316050945

Oh dear.


I've never claimed to be an IT expert, but just looking at that, what is there there to prove it wasn't just written using Word one evening after a few beers? 

(Note - this is a genuine question. The text I can see looks like something anyone could knock up like a TV screenplay and I can't see any way it proves itself to be authentic)


A denial would be nice from the impacted parties. So far all that has happened is the PM accepts that Slaters email was hacked.

Love to see a denial. I really would. But I doubt it would be forthcoming.





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Geektastic:
BarTender: https://twitter.com/whaledump/status/501911653316050945

Oh dear.


I've never claimed to be an IT expert, but just looking at that, what is there there to prove it wasn't just written using Word one evening after a few beers? 

(Note - this is a genuine question. The text I can see looks like something anyone could knock up like a TV screenplay and I can't see any way it proves itself to be authentic)


A denial would be nice from the impacted parties. So far all that has happened is the PM accepts that Slaters email was hacked.

Love to see a denial. I really would. But I doubt it would be forthcoming.


So does that mean there is no actual technological proof the words are genuine?





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BarTender:
Geektastic:
BarTender: https://twitter.com/whaledump/status/501911653316050945

Oh dear.


I've never claimed to be an IT expert, but just looking at that, what is there there to prove it wasn't just written using Word one evening after a few beers? 

(Note - this is a genuine question. The text I can see looks like something anyone could knock up like a TV screenplay and I can't see any way it proves itself to be authentic)


A denial would be nice from the impacted parties. So far all that has happened is the PM accepts that Slaters email was hacked.

Love to see a denial. I really would. But I doubt it would be forthcoming.


So does that mean there is no actual technological proof the words are genuine?


Or any proof it's not.

If it wasn't genuine there would be a response ASAP much like the Garner hoax saying that Collins has resigned and Collins tweeted back in no time flat.

First: https://twitter.com/Garner_Live/status/501918325102747648

Then: https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/501922374501924865

So far... nothing... crickets chirping. Speaks volumes don't you think?





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  Reply # 1112165 20-Aug-2014 15:39
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The conspiracy theorists wont believe denials, so why bother.




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BarTender:
Geektastic:
BarTender:
Geektastic:
BarTender: https://twitter.com/whaledump/status/501911653316050945

Oh dear.


I've never claimed to be an IT expert, but just looking at that, what is there there to prove it wasn't just written using Word one evening after a few beers? 

(Note - this is a genuine question. The text I can see looks like something anyone could knock up like a TV screenplay and I can't see any way it proves itself to be authentic)


A denial would be nice from the impacted parties. So far all that has happened is the PM accepts that Slaters email was hacked.

Love to see a denial. I really would. But I doubt it would be forthcoming.


So does that mean there is no actual technological proof the words are genuine?


Or any proof it's not.

If it wasn't genuine there would be a response ASAP much like the Garner hoax saying that Collins has resigned and Collins tweeted back in no time flat.

First: https://twitter.com/Garner_Live/status/501918325102747648

Then: https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/501922374501924865

So far... nothing... crickets chirping. Speaks volumes don't you think?


Personally I think the onus of proof rests with the accusers in a matter like this. If it's the other way around, if I write a piece claiming David Cunliffe is, say, dying of a terminal illness and he decides to not dignify such nonsense with a reply, we can assume I am correct...!





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