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  #1129961 16-Sep-2014 14:40
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Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.

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  #1129968 16-Sep-2014 14:45
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KiwiNZ: Ignoring for a minute the whole the subject matter, what annoys me the most is our election result could well be decided by people that have zero interest in this country, it's people, it's welfare, it's future. They will do a lot of damage and move on when they are bored with their play thing.

You mean Warner Brothers? ; ).

 
 
 
 


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  #1129970 16-Sep-2014 14:48
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Zippity:
ajobbins:
Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.


I already have.

The sources have strong reputations for reliability.




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  #1129971 16-Sep-2014 14:53
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Zippity:
ajobbins:
Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.


I already have.

The sources have strong reputations for reliability.


I nearly sprayed my coffee over my monitor with that comment

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  #1129976 16-Sep-2014 14:59
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I nearly sprayed my coffee over my monitor with that comment


The irony is very strong in this thread; I'm amused that I'm a whaleoil blogger :-)

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  #1129985 16-Sep-2014 15:00
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Zippity:
ajobbins:
Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.


I already have.

The sources have strong reputations for reliability.


So you can't come up with the proof huh?

Just a bag of wind. What a joke!

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  #1129999 16-Sep-2014 15:03
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I nearly sprayed my coffee over my monitor with that comment


Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't make it any less true. They have proven reliable sources time and time again. Regardless of what you think about them, this is largely undisputed.




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  #1130005 16-Sep-2014 15:08
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ajobbins:
Zippity:
ajobbins:
Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.


I already have.

The sources have strong reputations for reliability.


So you can't come up with the proof huh?

Just a bag of wind. What a joke!


This is a bit like disputing that today is Tuesday, and then calling it a bag of wind when I don't feel it necessary to prove you wrong. The claim that Snowden et al have not been proven reliable is frankly just as ridiculous. 4 seconds on Google will return you more proof than you can read in a day.

That fact that every world leader exposed by Snowden to date (Bar JK) has acknowledged Snowden has been correct is more than proof enough.

John Key on the other hand can't seem to remember what he had for breakfast




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  #1130006 16-Sep-2014 15:10
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ajobbins:
Zippity:
ajobbins:
Why should Key be given the benefit of the doubt over the clearly more reliable sources?


Please substantiate your boldened comment.


I already have.

The sources have strong reputations for reliability.

What is the exact substantive allegation that is in dispute above? I'm aware that Snowden et al say there is substantial data collection on the activities of ordinary (ie; innocent) NZ citizens and the PM says there is not. Beyond that level is there concrete detail Snowden is asserting that the PM contradicts?

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You are floundering.

Just like the fat Kraut (Whale) is doing laughing

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It would seem that if Snowden in co say it is, then it is, after all they have spotless credentials.

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gzt: 
What is the exact substantive allegation that is in dispute above? I'm aware that Snowden et al say there is substantial data collection on the activities of ordinary (ie; innocent) NZ citizens and the PM says there is not. Beyond that level is there concrete detail Snowden is asserting that the PM contradicts?


At this point, it seems nothing more than John Key's word against Snowden's.

My own opinion is that Snowden is far more reliable and trustworthy than Key, for a variety of reasons, primarily lack of vested interest and a track record of being correct.




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KiwiNZ: It would seem that if Snowden in co say it is, then it is, after all they have spotless credentials.


Not so. But as I said in the previous post, it's just guys 'word' against each other....and John Key is the less reliable of the two.

Doesn't make the allegations correct, but it doesn't make them incorrect either.




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KiwiNZ: It would seem that if Snowden in co say it is, then it is, after all they have spotless credentials.


Not so. But as I said in the previous post, it's just guys 'word' against each other....and John Key is the less reliable of the two.

Doesn't make the allegations correct, but it doesn't make them incorrect either.


Oh Ok , hmmmm

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ajobbins:
KiwiNZ: It would seem that if Snowden in co say it is, then it is, after all they have spotless credentials.


Not so. But as I said in the previous post, it's just guys 'word' against each other....and John Key is the less reliable of the two.

Doesn't make the allegations correct, but it doesn't make them incorrect either.


Oh Ok , hmmmm


Cool story bro




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