Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2417166 13-Feb-2020 10:03

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Looks like America has affirmed its new status as a banana republic.

The term "banana republic" does not fit the US. It actually has a very strong economy and is not dependent on revenue from a single export/ resource.

I am well-aware of the literal meaning. I was referring to the corruption of government institutions and their subversion to the interests of the rulers. America has been corrupted by those at the top and 'banana republic' was the most insulting characterisation I could think of to describe this travesty of what it used to stand for.

I am okay with having a go at the leadership but insulting the country is going too far.

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#2417167 13-Feb-2020 10:03

Rikkitic:
MikeB4:
Rikkitic:

Looks like America has affirmed its new status as a banana republic.

The term "banana republic" does not fit the US. It actually has a very strong economy and is not dependent on revenue from a single export/ resource.

I am well-aware of the literal meaning. I was referring to the corruption of government institutions and their subversion to the interests of the rulers. America has been corrupted by those at the top and 'banana republic' was the most insulting characterisation I could think of to describe this travesty of what it used to stand for.

I am okay with having a go at the leadership but insulting the country is going too far.

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#2417172 13-Feb-2020 10:16

cyril7:

I am speechless, but then this is the way Trump wants things, as if a street fighter mentality, but now he has influence in the DOJ and doing the same street style corruption tactics.

Did anyone hear Jesse's interview with Rick Wilson yesterday.

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We all know this is how Trump wants it. And the GOP. But for the life of me I can't understand why the wider voting public is cool with it. Even Republican supporters. Don't they have the imagination to foresee a Democrat president with the same unlimited powers, free from checks and balances?

Or do they assume that these powers mean that free and fair elections are a thing of the past and are 100% cool with it? And if so, do they not have the imagination to foresee an authoritarian government enacting policy they don't like, but they no longer have any way as voters to redress this?

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#2417190 13-Feb-2020 10:37

I guess you will get an answer to that at the next presidential election.

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#2417273 13-Feb-2020 12:20

MikeB4:

I am okay with having a go at the leadership but insulting the country is going too far.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. But still ... 43% of Americans approve of him.

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#2417297 13-Feb-2020 12:48

Quote from the NYT sums it up nicely

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The rare act of overruling the decisions of career prosecutors, particularly in such a politically charged case, reinforced concerns by Democrats and others that Mr. Trump was tipping the scales of justice in favor of his interests.

Walter M. Shaub Jr., the former head of the Office of Government Ethics, likened Tuesday’s actions to those in countries with authoritarian regimes.

“A corrupt authoritarian and his henchmen are wielding the Justice Department as a shield for friends and a sword for political rivals,” Mr. Shaub said Wednesday in a Twitter post. “It is impossible to overstate the danger

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#2417377 13-Feb-2020 14:00

I am tuning out US politics where I can. We have our election this year and that is more than enough BS for me I don't need an imported load of it.

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#2417490 13-Feb-2020 16:44

If you don't mind me saying, isn't this an unusual forum to post your getting out of US politics.

It's like going to an art museum and saying you're not interested in art.

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#2417501 13-Feb-2020 16:56

He did say "where I can."

The Geekzone pull is too strong.

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#2417516 13-Feb-2020 17:11

You can't escape it. It is like a 5G vortex sucking you in.

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#2417533 13-Feb-2020 17:39

dammit @freitasm that cursed magnetism, resistance would seem to be futile 😀

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#2417536 13-Feb-2020 17:48

MikeB4:dammit @freitasm that cursed magnetism, resistance would seem to be futile 😀

Hmm, Geekzone is actually a Borg Cube in disguise?

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#2417538 13-Feb-2020 17:56

Trump's New Hampshire Rally: Ivanka Is Beautiful, Coronavirus Will Go Away By Itself

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President Trump held a rally in Concord on the eve of the New Hampshire primary to take the spotlight off Democrats and get out some important messages about family and health.

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#2417556 13-Feb-2020 18:32

How a Bible prophecy shapes Trump's foreign policy

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For an influential group of American Christians, support for Israel -- and hatred of Iran -- are based in a biblical prophecy.

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#2421038 14-Feb-2020 14:59

The fiasco at Bill Barr’s Justice Department, explained

The Roger Stone prosecutors’ withdrawal is only part of it.

Vox by Andrew Prokopandrew

Attorney General Bill Barr and his allies are centralizing control over the Justice Department and acting in increasingly blatant ways to protect President Donald Trump’s interests and allies.

This became evident in dramatic fashion Tuesday when the entire team prosecuting longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone withdrew from that case after Justice Department higher-ups made clear they planned to override their sentencing recommendation.

But the Stone controversy was just the latest in a series of recent moves by Barr to “take control of legal matters of personal interest to President Donald Trump,” as Carol Lee, Ken Dilanian, and Peter Alexander of NBC News reported.

Senior Justice Department officials also intervened to change the sentencing recommendation for another Trump ally, Michael Flynn, last month. Barr put in a close ally in the politically sensitive US Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia job (in a procedurally unusual way). And Barr instituted new rules requiring his personal approval for any new investigations into presidential campaigns, staff, or foreign contributions — something that naturally would help the investigation-plagued Trump campaign.

All this has unfolded as Trump has separately taken revenge on witnesses in the impeachment inquiry: dismissing Alex and Yevgeny Vindman from the National Security Council staff and firing EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland. The president also pulled a Treasury Department nomination for the former US Attorney for DC, who had supervised Stone’s prosecution.

It’s not clear whether Barr is acting in response to explicit private instructions from Trump, but it’s largely irrelevant. Trump has made it unmistakably clear that these are the sorts of things he wants Barr to do — he tweeted before the change to Stone’s sentencing recommendation that it should be changed, and he praised Barr personally for doing so afterward.
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