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  #2461716 15-Apr-2020 11:23
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"I will be speaking to all 50 governors very shortly and I will be authorising each individual governor of each individual state to implement a plan" to open, he says, "at a time and manner that is most appropriate".

 

 

 

 

Or in other words, I will be giving them permission to do something I have no practical authority to either force them to do or prevent them from doing.





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  #2461864 15-Apr-2020 12:59
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The Washington Post - Coming to your $1,200 relief check: Donald J. Trump’s name

 

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The Treasury Department has ordered President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks the Internal Revenue Service is rushing to send to tens of millions of Americans, a process that is expected to slow their delivery by several days, senior agency officials said.

 

The unprecedented decision, finalized late Monday, means that when recipients open the $1,200 paper checks the IRS is scheduled to begin sending to 70 million Americans in coming days, “President Donald J. Trump” will appear on the left side of the payment.

 

It will be the first time a president’s signature appears on an IRS disbursement ...

 



 





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  #2462091 15-Apr-2020 18:15
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Trump's Mishandling Of The Covid-19 Crisis Is Confirmed By Dr. Fauci

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President Trump seemed to be floating the idea of firing Dr. Anthony Fauci over the weekend after the nation's top infectious disease expert confirmed that lives might have been saved had the President acted sooner to confront the threat of coronavirus.


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  #2462101 15-Apr-2020 18:32
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“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

 

- citation credit to Jacques Abbadie (no, not A. Lincoln)





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  #2462103 15-Apr-2020 18:41
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He blames W.H.O and has suspended funding of 650M which is about 15% of their budget. Im ok with WHO excluding the US, but I feel sorry for the other 300 million 


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  #2462109 15-Apr-2020 19:03
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Tinkerisk:

“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

 

- citation credit to Jacques Abbadie (no, not A. Lincoln)

 

 

This is US politics, you can fool enough people to get you elected 100% of the time.

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  #2462110 15-Apr-2020 19:06
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tdgeek:

He blames W.H.O and has suspended funding of 650M which is about 15% of their budget. Im ok with WHO excluding the US, but I feel sorry for the other 300 million 

 

 

The narrative from his fan club is that the WHO is controlled by China so this is a means of cutting off funding to a Chinese entity. Would never have picked Tedros Adhanom as a Chinese name myself...

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  #2462115 15-Apr-2020 19:19
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neb:
tdgeek:

 

He blames W.H.O and has suspended funding of 650M which is about 15% of their budget. Im ok with WHO excluding the US, but I feel sorry for the other 300 million 

 

The narrative from his fan club is that the WHO is controlled by China so this is a means of cutting off funding to a Chinese entity. Would never have picked Tedros Adhanom as a Chinese name myself...

 

My opinion is that he is a narcissist. He cannot be wrong. WHO is first on the list of many. Next are Governors who have the power for each state, which he doesn't. The list goes on


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  #2462117 15-Apr-2020 19:28
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tdgeek:

My opinion is that he is a narcissist. He cannot be wrong. WHO is first on the list of many. Next are Governors who have the power for each state, which he doesn't. The list goes on

 

 

It's not just your opinion, lots of people have spoken out about it, including Kellyanne Conway's husband. The NYT has a good article on it, This Is What Happens When a Narcissist Runs a Crisis.

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STUDY  REVEALS NO ONE COULD HAVE SEEN PANDEMIC COMING EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO CAN READ

 

MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—No one could have seen the coronavirus pandemic coming except for people who are capable of reading, a new study indicates.

 

The study, published by the University of Minnesota, is highly critical of the current early-warning system for global pandemics, which requires that a person have the literacy necessary to read, comprehend, and digest a memo.

 

“In order to see a pandemic coming, one would have to read and also understand the words, sentences, and paragraphs that compose a typical memo,” Professor Davis Logsdon, the author of the study, said. “And some of these memos can run two, three, even four pages in length.”

 

For someone who does not typically read, and instead spends ten or twelve hours a day watching television, “A memo like that is doomed to fall through the cracks.”

 

 





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  #2462121 15-Apr-2020 19:37
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geekIT:

 

 

 

STUDY  REVEALS NO ONE COULD HAVE SEEN PANDEMIC COMING EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO CAN READ

 

MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—No one could have seen the coronavirus pandemic coming except for people who are capable of reading, a new study indicates.

 

The study, published by the University of Minnesota, is highly critical of the current early-warning system for global pandemics, which requires that a person have the literacy necessary to read, comprehend, and digest a memo.

 

“In order to see a pandemic coming, one would have to read and also understand the words, sentences, and paragraphs that compose a typical memo,” Professor Davis Logsdon, the author of the study, said. “And some of these memos can run two, three, even four pages in length.”

 

For someone who does not typically read, and instead spends ten or twelve hours a day watching television, “A memo like that is doomed to fall through the cracks.”

 

 

 

 

I agree, its not Trumps fault at all now, I get it. Only those that can read (a.k.a choose to read) , so he is off the hook...  


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  #2462126 15-Apr-2020 19:56
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tdgeek:  My opinion is that he is a narcissist. He cannot be wrong. WHO is first on the list of many. Next are Governors who have the power for each state, which he doesn't. The list goes on

 



 

The New York Times - Letters - Is Trump a Pathological Narcissist?

 

Oct. 20, 2019

 

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... As a psychiatrist who contributed a chapter to the “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,” I have often been asked whether he meets the definition of a narcissist, to which I have answered, half in jest, “No, rather he gives narcissism a bad name.”

 

President Trump’s grandiosity and paranoid retaliatory behaviors are so far beyond those shown by what in contrast could be called “ordinary narcissists” that he requires a category beyond narcissism. 

 

The proper category would be “destructive dictator,” because Mr. Trump, like Hitler and Stalin, has the personality of a grandiose-paranoid dictator * who would destroy all he saw as his enemies while endangering the nation that he supposedly was advancing through his leadership.

 

That puts him far beyond the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder into a much more dangerous zone for our nation.

 

Henry J. Friedman
Cambridge, Mass.

 

The writer is an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.

 



 

 


"the personality of a grandiose-paranoid dictator" AKA "malignant narcissist"





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  #2462140 15-Apr-2020 20:30
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President Trump’s grandiosity and paranoid retaliatory behaviors are so far beyond those shown by what in contrast could be called “ordinary narcissists” that he requires a category beyond narcissism. The proper category would be “destructive dictator,” because Mr. Trump, like Hitler and Stalin, has the personality of a grandiose-paranoid dictator

 

 

That's really lacking in objectivity. There are well-established diagnostic criteria for cluster B personality disorders, of which Narcissistic Personality Disorder is one. There's no such thing as "so far beyond", just "scores highly on the PCL-R" or whatever diagnostic you're using. So comparing him to Stalin and Hitler changes the comment from "professional observation" to "someone wanking around with their opinions" (from Linus Torvalds).

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  #2462174 15-Apr-2020 21:25
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I'm no fan of Trump, but the clips of the Fauci interview are being played somewhat out of context in the media.

 

This is problematic because the media doesn't really need to cherry pick out-of-context soundbites to paint Trump's response as being poor (there is plenty of in-context stuff for that), but doing so can make the rest of the reporting appear biased.

 

EDIT: The closing of the US borders to China and Europe were actually relatively early weren't they? Isn't the problem that they did that and basically said "well done, we've stopped the pandemic" instead of preparing the country for the very foreseeable surge? I think credit should be given for the few things that were done right, if for no other reason than to at least try to appear unbiased in their reporting.

 

EDIT 2: A fair headline might be "Early Border Closures Bought US Precious Time, Which Was Then Squandered by Administrations Subsequent Inaction"


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  #2462201 15-Apr-2020 22:41
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Trump's own words:  Either he was a f&^%ing moron then, a f^&$%^ing moron now, or (most likely) he's a complete f*^%ing moron all the time:

 


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