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  #2466496 20-Apr-2020 17:49
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Piers Morgan in CNN interview below: "I've known him a long time. I consider him to be a friend, but I've been watching these daily briefings with mounting horror, frankly, because this is not what the president should be doing. He won't want me saying this, but I'm gonna say it anyway," he began.

Morgan went on to explain that he thinks throughout the pandemic, Trump and U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson have exemplified their inability to "segue into being war leaders" because "they're still playing the old games of party politics."

Speaking further on Trump, Morgan detailed the traits that the president is lacking that are needed in order to tackle a pandemic. "They've got to be calm. They got to show authority. They have to be honest. They have to be accurate, timely factual with what they're telling the people and they have to have the ability to show empathy," he said.

"At almost every level of that, Donald Trump at the moment is failing the American people," he added. Rather than offering information, Morgan said he believes Trump is "turning these briefings into a self-aggrandizing, self-justifying, overly defensive, politically partisan — almost like a rally to him."

Piers Morgan's stunning advice for his friend Donald Trump


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  #2466503 20-Apr-2020 18:01
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I can't imagine anyone being a friend of that pig, but I don't think he will be any longer.

 

 





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  #2466516 20-Apr-2020 18:16
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Rikkitic:

 

I can't imagine anyone being a friend of that pig, but I don't think he will be any longer.

 

 

Gotta be fake news about them being friends.


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  #2466523 20-Apr-2020 18:31
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at 18:00, last 3 minutes is channel summary.

"Go To Work!" New York Governor Cuomo claps Bbck at Trump as Complainer-In-Chief trolls his daily briefing

Roland S. Martin

It appears President Donald Trump watched New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's news conference Friday - and didn't like what he heard.

Some slang:
  • 411: Another term used for 'information'. In the States, dialing 411 gets the directory information.

  • Red state: term given to states during elections that have more Republican votes than Democratic votes.

  • Blue state:term given to states during elections that have more Democratic votes than Republican votes.

  • Wash your hands: refuse to be involved any more or to take responsibility



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  #2466540 20-Apr-2020 18:57
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The Washington Post - Trump aligns with the world’s ‘ostrich’ leaders

 

today

 

 

Last week, Oliver Steunkel, a Brazil-based political scientist, offered a new grouping for world leaders who refuse to take the coronavirus pandemic seriously.

 

He tweeted about an “ostrich alliance” of strongmen with their proverbial heads in the sand, disregarding international advisories and local public health fears. 

 

They were, as later enumerated by the Financial Times and The Washington Post's editorial page, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, President Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus and President Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov of Turkmenistan.

 

These men are not only linked by their denial of the severity of the threat, but also by a seeming contempt for the panic and concerns of others. ...

 

There’s a case to expand the roster of “ostriches.” 

 

A damning exposé by the Sunday Times found that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson skipped five major crisis meetings regarding the virus, focusing, instead, on other affairs, including a protracted divorce. ...

 

Trump’s daily coronavirus briefings have turned into spectacles of political grievance, with the president fuming against his opponents, asserting his “total” authority, and then playing the victim, at the whim of the country’s decentralized power structures. ...

 



 





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  #2466557 20-Apr-2020 19:24
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kingdragonfly: at 18:00, last 3 minutes is channel summary.

"Go To Work!" New York Governor Cuomo claps Bbck at Trump as Complainer-In-Chief trolls his daily briefing

 

 

It was so depressingly predictable, Trump has attacked China, he's attacked the WHO, you could see the next target would be the state governors. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, one freeze frame at a time.

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  #2466981 21-Apr-2020 11:32
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Trump looked at the estimates of 2 million US deaths in the early days and panicked, not wanting that on his record, so backed lockdowns.

 

Then the estimates came down to 250,000 and then 60,000. At that level he knows he can sell it to the American people as a great victory and so wants the lockdowns removed so his 'economic success' can continue. And dead people can't vote.

 

After all 60,000 is not that much different from those killed in car accidents or by the regular flu or by gun crime so how hard can that be to sell.

 

Of course if the numbers of dead then climb to high levels because he championed an early removal of the lockdowns he might be in some sort of trouble but presumably he would just blame someone else, the governors maybe for opening up too early.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2467072 21-Apr-2020 13:30
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Hi I'm very confused by American broadcasters and their politics.

 

CNN = Democrats - correct?

 

Which one is pro Republican?

 

Which other ones are biased to which group?





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  #2467079 21-Apr-2020 13:40
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Batman:

 

Hi I'm very confused by American broadcasters and their politics.

 

CNN = Democrats - correct?

 

Which one is pro Republican?

 

Which other ones are biased to which group?

 

 

I presume you have heard of the president's personal TV station, Fox News?


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  #2467081 21-Apr-2020 13:42
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Batman:

 

Hi I'm very confused by American broadcasters and their politics.

 

CNN = Democrats - correct?

 

Which one is pro Republican?

 

Which other ones are biased to which group?

 

 

It's not that clear-cut. CNN is generally considered 'liberal' by American standards, but American standards are not NZ standards. What you can say is CNN is vehemently anti-Trump. It also generally supports democratic positions but I would not say it is a 'democrat' broadcaster.

 

In normal times MSNBC might be considered establishment Republican, but it is also vehemently anti-Trump. ABC and CBS are traditional mainstream conservative, more or less somewhere in the middle. 

 

Fox is in a class of its own. Not so much pro-Republican as the voice of the Trump-worshipping Ministry of Propaganda. 

 

 





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  #2467187 21-Apr-2020 16:21
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Rikkitic:

 

Batman:

 

Hi I'm very confused by American broadcasters and their politics.

 

CNN = Democrats - correct?

 

Which one is pro Republican?

 

Which other ones are biased to which group?

 

 

It's not that clear-cut. CNN is generally considered 'liberal' by American standards, but American standards are not NZ standards. What you can say is CNN is vehemently anti-Trump. It also generally supports democratic positions but I would not say it is a 'democrat' broadcaster.

 

In normal times MSNBC might be considered establishment Republican, but it is also vehemently anti-Trump. ABC and CBS are traditional mainstream conservative, more or less somewhere in the middle. 

 

Fox is in a class of its own. Not so much pro-Republican as the voice of the Trump-worshipping Ministry of Propaganda. 

 

 

I would say MSNBC is more democratic leaning than CNN. They have commentators such as Rachel Maddow as one of the prime on air talents. CNN tries to be as centrist as possible. They often 'Both sides' issues to the point of being ridiculous at times. At the end of the day both will side with big money on most economic issues however. I guess that is the problem with the big corporate owned media.

 

Fox News is in a class of its own in basically being Republican TV.


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  #2467192 21-Apr-2020 16:27
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Rikkitic:

It's not that clear-cut. CNN is generally considered 'liberal' by American standards, but American standards are not NZ standards.

 

 

Yeah, it's a bit hard to explain because US politics is tilted so far to the right, what's regarded as liberal or left-wing in the US is conservative or even moderate right-wing in other parts of the world. Also be aware for the specific case of CNN that there are two CNN news feeds, the one for the US and the one for the rest of the world, and they have quite a different tone in their reporting and in what they report. In particular the international version tones down the rah-rah-go-USA stuff an awful lot.

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  #2467195 21-Apr-2020 16:30
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Varkk:

Fox News is in a class of its own in basically being Republican TV.

 

 

I'm not sure if I'd call it Republican TV, a lot of Republicans are nowhere near as extreme as Fox is. Whoever called it, at the time, "the propaganda arm of the Bush administration" wasn't far off the mark. Currently it's the propaganda arm of Trump personally.

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  #2467203 21-Apr-2020 16:36
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Batman:

Hi I'm very confused by American broadcasters and their politics.

 

CNN = Democrats - correct?

 

Which one is pro Republican?

 

Which other ones are biased to which group?

 

 

One other thing, you seem to have bought into the mostly right-wing US view that news media are political propaganda outlets. Fox is, but for a lot of news media their political alignment is "what's the story?". They'll look at the facts of the story and report it, not decide what they want people to believe and then make up the facts to support it (yeah, Fox again).

 

 

For example look at Bloomberg Business News, they ran a story on Covid19 in which they interviewed investment bankers, financiers, an economics professor, and others. No medical people because they're a business news source, so in a sense that was biased, but not politically. Their readers care about the business aspect of what's reported, not whether it's from a Republican or Democrat political angle.

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  #2467208 21-Apr-2020 16:46
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Elections looming. One simple fact to create indecisive behavior in such a man.

Its not election year in Great Britain is it? rofl.

I know we cant compare given we are such a small nation but at least Jacinda had the guts to call it and stick with it during an election year. If I wasnt a National to Green convert Id be voting Labour simply because she has had more hard things thrown at her than most get in all their terms within her first term and she has handled them decisively. 


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