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  # 1666580 9-Nov-2016 15:03
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Rikkitic:

 

6FIEND:

 

Although neither candidate is appealing, if I was eligible to vote I would likely be holding my nose and casting it Trump's way.

 

The reasons are:

 

1) Under Obama's presidency, the US has been sliding down the "world's best" rankings in just about every measure...  Clinton would see a continuation of those same policies.

 

2) Almost every single female that I know has been vocally pro-Clinton, but can't point to a single policy or thing that they like about her, except that she's a she.   That just makes me want to #facepalm

 

3) The US media (particularly the NY Times & Washington Post) declared loudly and very early on that they would do everything within their power to prevent Trump from being elected.  I've also noted similar tendencies in
NZ based coverage of the campaign.  This is entirely at-odds with their stated ethos of credibility, fairness and impartiality.

 

So yeah, it would mainly be a protest vote...

 

 

1. That started long before Obama. He has also had to contend with a Congress that would rather see America die than him succeed.

 

2. The single thing all women and many men like about Clinton is that she is not Trump. That alone is enough to make her the better candidate.

 

3. Credibility, fairness and impartiality in the media. Gee, where would we look for that? Fox, maybe?

 

 

 

If you want to cast a protest vote, try the Libertarians.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. blame others for failings

 

2. attack opponent

 

3. distract with a strawman argument

 

 

 

Congratulations on such a concise object lesson ...straight from the DNC playbook.


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  # 1666585 9-Nov-2016 15:12
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It's looking a bit grim now, still many votes to be counted, but Trump edging ahead in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio.

 

Stock markets have reacted - started heading south on what's probably going to be worse than GFC II if Trump wins.

 

Too bad - that's only money, jobs etc.  What comes next is what worries me.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1666587 9-Nov-2016 15:14
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There are a fair number of sites predicting Trump takes Florida. He has to win it to stay in the race, but there are 750 votes in it at 87% counted. Expect a recount.

 

 

 

He's increased his margin now, but I'd say there will be calls for a recount if it comes down to it.

 

I'm surprised by how close Texas is.

 

 

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  # 1666588 9-Nov-2016 15:15
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joker97:

 

 

 

Where do you guys look at all the nitty gritty? GOogle page just shows a headline xx vs xx grand total

 

 

 

 

Try here.





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  # 1666590 9-Nov-2016 15:19
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I'm following it on CNN.

 

 





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# 1666592 9-Nov-2016 15:21
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Hopefully Trump will win.  If he does it will be small margin.  I don't like either. Trump is not a nice person it seems but certainly not evil. I feel Clinton is quite evil looking at her history as Secretary of State and Clinton foundation overall.  Under Obama USA has become weak.  Under Clinton I fear we will very quickly enter world war 3.  Time will tell. So I hope Trump does win as better of the 2 candidates


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  # 1666593 9-Nov-2016 15:21
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Fred99: It's looking a bit grim now, still many votes to be counted, but Trump edging ahead in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio.

 

It's coming along pretty close to this prediction, with the possible exception of Florida. Note that less than half of NC has been counted so far.

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1666594 9-Nov-2016 15:24
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SaltyNZ:

 

joker97:

 

 

 

Where do you guys look at all the nitty gritty? GOogle page just shows a headline xx vs xx grand total

 

 

 

 

Try here.

 

 

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  # 1666596 9-Nov-2016 15:29
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In florida, I wonder if we will have similar issue to that hanging chad thing, if it is a close result.


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  # 1666597 9-Nov-2016 15:31
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New York Times has dropped Hillarys chance of winning from 82% to 50%. And Trump is leading in some of her states.

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  # 1666598 9-Nov-2016 15:32
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Hopefully Trump will win.  If he does it will be small margin.  I don't like either. Trump is not a nice person it seems but certainly not evil. I feel Clinton is quite evil looking at her history as Secretary of State and Clinton foundation overall.  Under Obama USA has become weak.  Under Clinton I fear we will very quickly enter world war 3.  Time will tell. So I hope Trump does win as better of the 2 candidates

 

 

 

 

You hope for who? It won't be good for NZ, especially as the TPPA will then likely be dead, and all the millions we have spent on it will be wasted. What someone looks like doesn't come into it. Why is WW3 more likely under Clinton? The last war they got involved with was under Republican leadership, not the democrates.


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  # 1666600 9-Nov-2016 15:34
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Behodar:

 

Fred99: It's looking a bit grim now, still many votes to be counted, but Trump edging ahead in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio.

 

It's coming along pretty close to this prediction, with the possible exception of Florida. Note that less than half of NC has been counted so far.

 

 

Trump is significantly ahead in a lot of states you have marked for Clinton.

 

 





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  # 1666605 9-Nov-2016 15:43
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mattwnz:

 

Gilco2:

 

Hopefully Trump will win.  If he does it will be small margin.  I don't like either. Trump is not a nice person it seems but certainly not evil. I feel Clinton is quite evil looking at her history as Secretary of State and Clinton foundation overall.  Under Obama USA has become weak.  Under Clinton I fear we will very quickly enter world war 3.  Time will tell. So I hope Trump does win as better of the 2 candidates

 

 

 

 

You hope for who? It won't be good for NZ, especially as the TPPA will then likely be dead, and all the millions we have spent on it will be wasted. What someone looks like doesn't come into it. Why is WW3 more likely under Clinton? The last war they got involved with was under Republican leadership, not the democrates.

 

 

 

 

There's anti-establishment feeling in NZ - people who'd like to see the world economy and trade take a hit, look forward to turmoil etc.


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  # 1666606 9-Nov-2016 15:44
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A new world order




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  # 1666607 9-Nov-2016 15:45
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Behodar:

 

Fred99: It's looking a bit grim now, still many votes to be counted, but Trump edging ahead in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio.

 

It's coming along pretty close to this prediction, with the possible exception of Florida. Note that less than half of NC has been counted so far.

 

 

Except that Michigan and Virginia look like the could also go to Trump at the moment. This is going to be down to the wire. 


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