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  #2563280 13-Sep-2020 15:37
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President FDR, 1933: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

PM Winston Churchill, 1944: "Loose lips sink ships"

President Nixon, 1968: "Is this thing on?"

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  #2563281 13-Sep-2020 15:41
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  #2563286 13-Sep-2020 15:51
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Interesting observation on some random web site:

 

Out of all of the people who insist that the Second Amendment is meant to prevent a tyrannical government, very few came out in support of protesters in Portland, Oregon, when unidentified federal agents began arresting people without probable cause.

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  #2563291 13-Sep-2020 16:04
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Actually the full list that the above came from is quite worth going through:

 

45 Facts That Have Become Debatable in 2020, Thanks to Politics.

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  #2563305 13-Sep-2020 18:36
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The Washington Post - The stock market is detached from economic reality

 

10 Sep 2020

 

 

Wealthy investors and the Fed have been propping up large companies. It can’t last.

 

When the stock market surged early this month, President Trump was quick to tweet, “The Dow Jones Industrial just closed above 29,000!” ...

 

How have stocks remained so resilient in the face of such a severe shock? 

 

In part, it’s because of inequality. 

 

Stocks are overwhelmingly owned by the top 1 percent, which means speculation has been able to continue even as more people have lost their jobs than at any time since the Great Depression. ...

 

 






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  #2563308 13-Sep-2020 18:48
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Sideface:

Stocks are overwhelmingly owned by the top 1 percent, which means speculation has been able to continue even as more people have lost their jobs than at any time since the Great Depression. ...

 

 

That also shows up in other areas as well, e.g. the Republicans vetoing relief measures because, as Steve Munchkin put it, "we don't want to pay people more for not working than what they get when they're working". What he's totally unaware of since he never mixes with the people he's talking about is that a lot of the US makes ends meet solely from tips, not their criminally low wage. Without the tips they can't survive on just wages alone. So when the government takes money they're taxed based on base wage + estimated tips, but when it gives they'd only get income support based on the base wage.

 
 
 
 


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  #2563320 13-Sep-2020 19:25
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Yet another example Republicans and Democrats support the same policies

Mnuchin “used to be” democrat

Working Class: Help Us Please
Republicans: No
Democrats: No ❤🏳️‍🌈#blm




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  #2563321 13-Sep-2020 19:32
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nathan: Yet another example Republicans and Democrats support the same policies

Mnuchin “used to be” democrat

Working Class: Help Us Please
Republicans: No
Democrats: No ❤🏳️‍🌈#blm

 

Your user image is disturbing.

 

The issue "could be" who is the best party? As they have the best overall outcome. Or who is the best President, As he/she has the best outcome. But you portraying that you would never vote for Biden, is voting against one person. Why not just say I will always vote for Trump? 

 

The issue in the US is vote for an idiot or dont vote for an idiot. I dont recall any other election where GOP or Dems publicly stated they will support the other party to get rid of the President.


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  #2563376 13-Sep-2020 22:48
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nathan: Mnuchin “used to be” democrat

 

 

He used to be Goldman Sachs, that's all that counts. Once you've been part of the vampire squid, anything else is just a transient thing.

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  #2563388 14-Sep-2020 05:36
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neb: He used to be Goldman Sachs, that's all that counts. Once you've been part of the vampire squid, anything else is just a transient thing.

 

He would fit in, just as well, into a Biden administration.

 

and we know, Biden, is going to select someone as equally tied to Wall St, someone like a Jamie Dimon or a Larry Summers





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  #2563396 14-Sep-2020 07:19
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nathan: Mnuchin would fit in, just as well, into a Biden administration.


I understand that if Biden is elected only mimes will have jobs, everyone will be forced to change gender roles, all parking meters will be replaced with goats.

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  #2563400 14-Sep-2020 07:45
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tdgeek:

 

Your user image is disturbing.

 

The issue "could be" who is the best party? As they have the best overall outcome. Or who is the best President, As he/she has the best outcome. But you portraying that you would never vote for Biden, is voting against one person. Why not just say I will always vote for Trump? 

 

 

Biden's voting record is disturbing

 

I-will-never-vote-for-Joe-Biden-because-he-doesn't-support-any-policies-I-care-about, won't fit in the avatar picture

 

I'm not voting for Trump.  And if that mental gymnastics was logical, then not voting for Trump would be a vote for Biden.  But its not. Simply demanding some policies I care about from politicians, instead of pointing fingers at the bad ones.  The antidote to Trump isn't a warmongering racist screwer of worker's and the environment

 

 

The issue in the US is vote for an idiot or dont vote for an idiot. I dont recall any other election where GOP or Dems publicly stated they will support the other party to get rid of the President.

 

 

its all performative theater, a bit like WWE WWF Wrestling, both sides owned by the same boss, and we know what the outcome will be after a few fake body-slams.  The false choice presented to us by the corrupt duopoly of the Democratic and Republican parties





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  #2563412 14-Sep-2020 08:36
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kingdragonfly:

I understand that if Biden is elected only mimes will have jobs, everyone will be forced to change gender roles, all parking meters will be replaced with goats.

 

 

 

Still better than Trump, I suppose.





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  #2563416 14-Sep-2020 08:44
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neb:
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Stocks are overwhelmingly owned by the top 1 percent, which means speculation has been able to continue even as more people have lost their jobs than at any time since the Great Depression. ...

 

That also shows up in other areas as well, e.g. the Republicans vetoing relief measures

 

that is a bit of a distorted reality of what happened

 

its not a veto, its a vote, and both sides are not serious about passing any relief.  Both sides have "messaging" bills that they cram all sorts of crazy stuff into, that have nothing to do with any relief whatsoever, that then don't pass, so they can blame the other side for not letting it pass.

 

The republicans, as you point out, for ideological deficit reasons, but the democrats equally for political reasons. The Dems have absolutely nothing except not being as awful as Trump. In the midst of the worst pandemic in a century, they can't even bring themselves to advocate, even temporarily, for healthcare coverage for the 29 million new unemployed Americans who have lost it and 30 million who never had it.  Neither side cares or offers any real solution. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 





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